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[00:17] hi, i installed a Hard Disk into my PC and powered up my box, and i get some kernel errors about " end_request: I/O error, (hdc) " [00:17] Schiz0 (~Schiz0@pool-68-163-23-142.phil.east.verizon.net) left irc: "return 0;" [00:17] i want to format it but i'm having some errors [00:17] fdisk -l, df, both dont show the drive even being there, but hdparm shows it as "active/idle" [00:17] Inv_arp (~junya@adsl-8-124-180.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: [00:18] AJ_Z0 (jr9n5kkgo2@aj-z0.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) left irc: "Screw you guys, I'm going home!" [00:18] what does sfdisk -l say ? [00:18] could be a bad drive, a bad cable, a buggy controller, poor dma support for you chipset, ... [00:18] it doesnt show up [00:19] the disk is HFS formated.. :/ [00:19] that shouldn't be contributing to the io errors [00:19] loMike; is it scsi or other ? [00:19] its ide [00:19] loMike: just reopen the box & reattach the cables [00:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/137 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/137 b/1 e/- I/-] [00:20] Nick change: Lethorio1 -> Kithe [00:20] naw, i'll just trash it, only 1.2 GB [00:20] btw try no to mess up the older config/sequence. Attach at hd as a last hd. [00:21] yeah, the drive's probably just bad. that's what, 11 years old? 12? [00:21] StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #linuxhelp. [00:21] heh, it say's 1997 [00:21] ...a 1.2? [00:21] yea Quatum Fireball [00:21] geeze. wonder who was still buying 1.2s that late. [00:21] Apple [00:21] thenewjhp (~jason@c-67-161-166-239.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [00:22] good point ;) [00:22] :P [00:22] <_blue> jebus, almost 230am : [00:22] <_blue> :( [00:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [00:25] yep [00:25] I think I messed up my RH Enterprise box by upgrading glibc (2.3.5-10 -> 2.3.2-95.6) with RPMs. trying to figure out how bad it is... [00:26] virsys (~virsys@or-65-40-226-82.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) joined #linuxhelp. [00:26] thats bad. real bad [00:27] hm.. [00:27] ls hangs :-P [00:27] this was probably a really dumb thing to do [00:27] something like that should always be fixable. boot from the cd, mount your partitions, and re-install the appropriate rpm onto your rh partitions [00:29] bemused0 (1000@pcp05403995pcs.ebrod01.ga.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [00:29] does anyone know of a good rsync download howto --im finding alot of rsync mirror setup howtos and the like or howtos on how to PUSH sync to a destination, i just want to download [00:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [00:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [00:32] http://pastebin.ca/17600 if somebody can help me :) [00:33] bemused0, it's pretty easy... to browse an rsync server, do rsync rsync://host.com/ and then keep adding a directory, one at a time [00:34] bemused0, to download a directory recursively, rsync -aPv rsync://host.com/module/directory . (notice no trailing / after directory, and the space before the dot) [00:34] bemused0, to download a file, rsync -aPv rsync://host.com/module/file . (once again, notice the dot) [00:34] i figured it was that easy [00:34] i think my syntax was wrong [00:34] thank you lemme try [00:34] ok [00:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [00:35] Action: amrit should update his server howto with more client info too... [00:36] what about the --progress --partial flags i read about? [00:36] -P = both of those [00:36] or are they just for verbosity [00:36] oh, nice [00:36] heh [00:36] -aPv is the most common set of options that most people will want [00:36] _blue (~blue@adsl-68-94-19-246.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:36] the man page explains them well enough, fyi [00:37] is that trailing dot for the destination? (ie ./here) ? [00:38] ya i read the man and was using -auv and a ::before my path [00:38] thenewjhp (~jason@c-67-161-166-239.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:38] thenewjhp (~jason@c-67-161-166-239.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. 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[00:43] hi fellaz [00:43] thenewjhp, and they'll probably charge you for that as well.. may be an expensive lesson [00:43] looking back, probably a good reason not to try installing glibc and gcc remotely without install discs [00:44] heh [00:44] well, you _downgraded_ glibc, no? was that by mistake? [00:44] ah, those numbers are reversed. it was an upgrade. [00:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [00:45] had several dependencies when i started, but I got it to work by upgrading about 9 things on one line. didn't have to force install. [00:48] oh [00:48] Tomicles (~tomh@c-24-6-122-209.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: [00:48] it's possible, er... likely that the platform doesn't exactly match, though.. RH Ent i686 != Fedora Core 4 i386 [00:48] ... [00:48] the whole thing seemed like a good idea at the time :-P [00:49] ... indeed [00:49] tyreth (~tyreth@203.220.37.215) left irc: "Leaving" [00:49] Kamping_Kaiser (~kaiser@ppp221-98.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net) joined #linuxhelp. [00:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/140 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/140 b/1 e/- I/-] [00:53] d1223m (~dunk@81-86-240-40.dsl.pipex.com) joined #linuxhelp. [00:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [00:59] dsabenz (~tabn@202.155.130.127) joined #linuxhelp. [01:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [01:00] Writing user file... [01:00] Writing channel file... [01:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [01:04] war- (~war@iniquity.net) joined #linuxhelp. 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[01:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/140 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/140 b/1 e/- I/-] [01:43] naiad (~kmfdm@dsl553-1-86.dsl.ucc-net.ca) joined #linuxhelp. [01:43] does anyone know if mrtg works with kernel 2.6? [01:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [01:52] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [01:52] Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.240) joined #linuxhelp. [01:53] i would have thought so yes [01:53] why would it not work with that kernel? [01:53] Nick change: Kamping_Kaiser -> Kaiser_essen [01:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [01:56] Kaiser_essen (~kaiser@ppp221-98.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [02:00] Writing user file... [02:00] Writing channel file... [02:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [02:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [02:09] google (~google@users.eiwaz.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:09] google (~google@users.eiwaz.com) joined #linuxhelp. [02:09] Jax (~tsche@adsl-62-167-70-53.adslplus.ch) joined #linuxhelp. [02:09] how do i remove an alised network iface (eth0:4) ? [02:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [02:10] Norky (~dan@154.32.36.31) joined #linuxhelp. [02:10] ifconfig eth0:4 down [02:11] will that not take down the whole iface? [02:11] no [02:11] if you like typing, you could remove the address with ip [02:12] hm i did: ifconfig eth0 del myiptodelete [02:12] do i need to do: ifconfig eth0:X del myiptodelete ? [02:12] ip ad show dev eth0 [02:12] then identify the address to delete [02:12] ip ad del ip.add.ress dev eth0 [02:13] Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.240) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:13] you want to just do 'ifconfig eth0:4 down' to drop that alias.. removing the ip is different [02:13] k [02:13] no i got a hole though.. [02:13] i.e eth0:4 is missing [02:14] can i get the higher aliases down ? :D [02:14] hmm... remove the last one and put it into eth0:4 [02:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [02:15] do i have to restart the service running on that ip? [02:15] guess not [02:15] Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.110) joined #linuxhelp. [02:16] depends if theyre binded to the ip or interface.. probably wouldnt hurt though [02:16] Kamping_Kaiser (~kaiser@ppp221-98.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net) joined #linuxhelp. [02:16] StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:17] i thought eth-aliases *was* how you put additional ip addresses on an interface using ifconfig? [02:18] yeah, but if you remove it from eth0:20 and insert it into eth0:4 then the services binded to the ip shouldnt matter.... however, if youre binding a service to a specific interface (samba for example) then it does matter [02:19] LootBeer (1000@cm132.omega22.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Client Quit [02:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [02:20] d1223m (~dunk@d1223m.user) got netsplit. [02:20] punkcut__ (~punkcut@64-121-11-10.c3-0.sfpo-ubr2.sfrn-sfpo.ca.cable.rcn.com) got netsplit. [02:20] rok47 (rok@corp.detrok.com) got netsplit. [02:20] Mxyzpltk (~fede@216.194.173.2) got netsplit. [02:20] d1223m (~dunk@d1223m.user) joined #linuxhelp. [02:20] punkcut__ (~punkcut@64-121-11-10.c3-0.sfpo-ubr2.sfrn-sfpo.ca.cable.rcn.com) returned to #linuxhelp. [02:20] Mxyzpltk (~fede@216.194.173.2) returned to #linuxhelp. [02:20] rok47 (rok@corp.detrok.com) returned to #linuxhelp. [02:21] by removing "it", i assume you mean removing the ip address? [02:22] hi [02:22] sleon|tuX (~sleon|tuX@e180010099.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined #linuxhelp. [02:22] hi [02:22] what is "eth1: bus master arbitration failure. status ffff" ? [02:24] i am trying to disable password auth and keyboard interactive auth in sshd, i set following in sshd_config: PasswordAuthentication no and ChallengeResponseAuthentication no , then i restarted ssh server but i still can login using my password(my goal is to allow only public key auth, because there are a lots of atacks on my system , which use dictionary attacks) [02:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [02:25] kreg (~kreg@209.161.26.78) joined #linuxhelp. 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[03:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [03:06] bMotion: All channels are idle, going away [03:06] Tcl error in script for 'timer6641716': [03:06] invalid channel-dname: #linuxsphere #nf-ircstaff [03:06] StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #linuxhelp. [03:06] 'lo StevenR [03:07] fine.thanx. howhave ubeen? [03:07] yo spike [03:07] ola StevenR [03:07] hiya Jenna [03:08] how much would be a good price for a IBM X31 laptop(2nd hand), in GBP? [03:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [03:12] StevenR: how old? I'd say around 600/700 anyway, 2nd hand stuff should cost a little bit more than half price imho [03:12] doesn't say how old, asking price is 400gbp [03:12] of course it should be really well maintained, warranty still valid, etc [03:13] someone from my local lug is selling it, and i wondered about the rpiec [03:14] well, it depends entirely on the conditions and "optionals". it looks a little bit too cheap to me. [03:14] i'm also wondering if i can spend 400quid on a laptop, and justify it [03:14] StevenR: if the guy is from the lug I'd just ask him to show it to you [03:14] yeah, he's local, so it would be a collect and try b4 i buy [03:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [03:15] be sure to run a battery test... it can be very annoying if the bat is half dead and doesn't last more than 2 hours (it should last 6 by default) [03:15] and batteries are quite expensive [03:16] i'm emailing him with a list of questions like how old, how long has he had it, whys he selling it, etc...anythign else i should ask? [03:18] warranty, even if u can guess it depending on how old it is [03:18] how well do the various hardware components work under Linux? [03:18] but I'd ask it anyway. or maybe he bought a warranty extensions, I generally do for laptops [03:19] Norky: u can google that, there're quite a few pages about the X31 around [03:19] Norky: he specifies full workingness underl inux [03:19] and iirc but for the ole good probs with ACPI everything works fine [03:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [03:20] dsabenz (~tabn@202.155.130.127) left irc: [03:20] it also seems to lack an optical drive, which would suck [03:20] but i'm asking about that [03:20] optical drive is the first thing u're gonna mis on any subnotebook [03:20] so far the sony vaio (which is the one I'd buy if it wasn't so fscking expensive) is the only subnotebook having an optical drive [03:21] yeah, but it might have a dock, which is also what im asking [03:22] thanks spike , Norky :) i'll see what his replies are [03:24] anyone versed with linpack or scalapack ? 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[03:41] Jenna: the webmin one is not maintained too well, and i did a quick test and wasnt too happy ;) [03:41] spiekey: depending on the backup plan bacula can be the best solution out there. imho backuppc is for any small network, while bacula is the best solution for any mid/large size scenario (and here I'm talking of enterprises too) [03:42] Pauly (~nope@219-88-117-178.dialup.xtra.co.nz) left irc: [03:42] Action: StevenR is wondering if the ocmpany he starts working for on monday actually even _take_ backups [03:42] spiekey: many of the enterprises running amanda switched to it. it's that, or proprietary stuff like Veritas [03:43] odds are, they don't...they seem to be missing a screw when it comes to IT infrastructure [03:43] Kamping_Kaiser (~kaiser@ppp221-98.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net) left irc: Connection timed out [03:43] backuppc doesnt work well over the internet i have found [03:44] mmmh, sort of, yes. backuppc is ideal for small/mid size LANs [03:44] yeah [03:44] StevenR: do u mind a pm? [03:44] i have found the best to be rdiff-backup with rsync... rsync is rock solid but needs incrementals - thats where rdiff-backup comes in... which is not solid over the internet but over a network its fine... the two together are great [03:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [03:45] misc-: have u ever looked into rsnapshots? that's pretty good too [03:46] no, i havent.. [03:46] my aim is to backup a single server with a webinterface which is easy to use for the user. thats all really [03:47] and it should be able to back up to dvd [03:47] spike: goforit [03:49] Emil_Zeuthen (~emil@cpe.atm2-0-10837.0x50c766b2.bynxx14.customer.tele.dk) joined #linuxhelp. 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[04:06] btw u wear glasses ? [04:07] well, try with books, chances are I've read most of the ones u'd mention [04:07] no, I don't. [04:07] spike: do you have long hair? [04:07] spike: art of war ? [04:08] is it that "guess who" game? ;) [04:08] if u're referring to the Sun Tzu one I have [04:08] a must have for any samurai wannabe probably [04:09] spike: wannabe ? hehe [04:09] elder (~124@63.245.123.204) joined #linuxhelp. [04:09] spike: arthashastras ? [04:09] Jenna: yeah, if u don't spend ur life on it u can't be anything but a wannabe [04:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/145 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/145 b/1 e/- I/-] [04:10] spike: christine (stephen king) [04:10] nope, what's that? [04:10] no then [04:11] something more elaborate on the lines of suntzu compilation [04:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/145 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/145 b/1 e/- I/-] [04:15] joedj (~joe@adsl-1-046.QLD.dft.com.au) joined #linuxhelp. [04:16] What happened to CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 between Linus' 2.6.8 and 2.6.12.2? I'm not seeing it. 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[05:06] hello [05:06] ola [05:06] when i want to patch kernel - when must i type patch -p0.... before or after the command 'make' (sorry for my bad english) [05:07] TheDarkSide: patch before doing anything else [05:08] StevenR thanks [05:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [05:15] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [05:15] Emil_Zeuthen (~emil@cpe.atm2-0-10837.0x50c766b2.bynxx14.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Qualis rex, talis grex" [05:16] np [05:18] Nick change: hellz__hunter -> hellz_hunter [05:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/145 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/145 b/1 e/- I/-] [05:20] Nick change: KarlosII -> Rabbid [05:20] Nick change: Rabbid -> RabidDog [05:21] ai-a (~gandalfii@81.168.0.204) left irc: [05:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/144 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/144 b/1 e/- I/-] [05:26] hondza (~hondza@hondza.user) joined #linuxhelp. [05:27] seemawn (~seemawn@p54A995C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #linuxhelp. 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[05:46] if someone feels up to helping out with mounting a usb flash drive, id be appreciative [05:48] orchid_ (~bzgirl@orchid.user) joined #linuxhelp. [05:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [05:51] gnubien (~e@94.244.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined #linuxhelp. [05:53] pau (censured@80.172.138.251) left #linuxhelp. [05:54] tirs: look in dmesg [05:54] it tells you where you can find it [05:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [05:57] tirs:http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1256701,00.asp [05:58] thx for the link jenna checking it out [05:58] sorry wat is dmesg [05:59] type dmesg [05:59] orchid (~bzgirl@orchid.user) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:59] is it just me or does zoloft smell like glue? [06:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:00] Writing user file... [06:00] Writing channel file... 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[06:09] MetaCosm (~rmelton@MetaCosm.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) left irc: Client Quit [06:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:10] FAT: unable to read boot sector [06:11] end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0 [06:11] usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame* 975 [06:11] I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 [06:11] FAT: unable to read boot sector [06:12] VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev fd(2,0). [06:12] usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:1d.1-1 address 2 [06:12] sock_release: fasync list no empty! [06:12] any of that help? [06:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:19] StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/145 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/145 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:20] kmn (~kayemen@24.222.94.50) joined #linuxhelp. [06:21] greetings, i am trying to start mplayer through ssh but it seems ssh is not set to the right display [06:21] MetaCosm (~rmelton@MetaCosm.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) joined #linuxhelp. [06:21] what is the quickest way to check [06:21] like :0.0 [06:22] tirss (tris@230.a.003.ade.iprimus.net.au) joined #linuxhelp. [06:22] im trying export DISPLAY=:0.0 ..export DISPLAY=:0.1 ... [06:22] but im just basically guessing [06:22] sorry d/c [06:24] is echo $DISPLAY it [06:24] it seems right [06:24] that gives me my current display setting [06:24] DISPLAY=:0 mplayer [06:24] :0.0 [06:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:25] mplayer will be played graphically in what it finds in $DISPLAY [06:25] to my knowledge [06:25] yah thats what i thought [06:25] it doenst play [06:25] even when i specify -display :0.0 [06:25] or -vo x11 [06:25] no errors? [06:25] plays fine when i run the command locally [06:26] yah i get vo: couldn't open the X11 display (0:0)! [06:26] i dont know why though [06:26] it cant open the display [06:26] look at xhost [06:26] DISPLAY=:0 xlogo [06:26] <- debug [06:27] heh [06:27] was that instructions ? [06:27] sort of [06:27] try DISPLAY=:0 xlogo [06:27] se if a xlogo pops up [06:28] xhost is used to regulate access at some level to your X [06:28] Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server [06:28] Xlib: No protocol specified [06:28] Error: Can't open display: :0 [06:29] works fine when i run it locally though [06:29] not through ssh [06:29] pops right up [06:29] what machine do you ssh from? [06:29] this one [06:29] another linux machine? [06:29] negative its a windows machine [06:29] is X running on :0 on the linux machine? 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[06:31] other side [06:31] i want it to start locally [06:31] misc- (~less@60-240-47-244.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "Client exiting" [06:31] not x forward [06:31] "locally" could be confusing here :) [06:31] i want it to run on the box and display on the monitor of the box im ssh'd into [06:31] but not x forward is not [06:31] yah no x forward [06:31] tirss (tris@230.a.003.ade.iprimus.net.au) left #linuxhelp. [06:32] kmn: did you ssh as the same user who is already logged into a x session? [06:32] k with no export [06:32] i get blank [06:32] when i echo $DISPLAY [06:32] kasc: um i dont think no [06:32] so i have to log into the box first as the same user i ssh with [06:33] ill try that quick [06:33] kmn: on a sidenote; do you see any potensial risks by expecting any ssh logged in user to be allowed xwindows on your x session? [06:33] kmn: you could try this with vncserver too, [06:33] so you wont have to run forth and back [06:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/145 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/145 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:35] kmn: if you log into your x session, that user will get a key to access the session called ~/.Xauthority. if you dont have the correct key in the homedir of the user you are logging in as, you wont be allowed to access the session [06:35] unless you configure your system otherwise [06:35] when i log in directly i get that key but when i log in through ssh its not set [06:35] does ssh have to be configured a certain way [06:36] kmn: yes, not to do x-forward [06:36] and by "ssh" you probably unexpectadly asked for ssh client configuration [06:36] sshd (ssh server) can allow this without it affects your current scenario [06:37] yah ssh client config [06:37] xforwarding is off [06:37] putty defaults not to do any forwarding [06:37] so no, no additional config is necessary [06:38] kmn: did you try DISPLAY=:0 xlogo from remote ssh at the same time as you are logged in locally? [06:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/145 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/145 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:40] yah same thing [06:40] Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server [06:40] Xlib: No protocol specified [06:40] Error: Can't open display: :0 [06:40] TheDarkSide (pfyy@FrozenSoul.bergon.net) left irc: "Kill by Love (Better luck next time)" [06:40] runs locally but taht error in the ssh [06:41] xhost - [06:41] hm.. [06:43] terrible1abbage (rhoward@succubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au) left irc: Client Quit [06:44] terribleCabbage (rhoward@succubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au) joined #linuxhelp. [06:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/144 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/144 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:45] agney (~bofh@agney.user) left irc: "users have names only because humans are too stupid to remember numbers." [06:46] lurch_ (~lurch@105.60-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) left irc: Connection reset by peer [06:48] pjv (~pjv@61.68.145.10) joined #linuxhelp. [06:48] im tryina get it to play through cron ideally [06:48] but same thing happens [06:48] i can see it in ps list [06:49] when the cronjob executes [06:49] but no video [06:49] try a cronjob * * * * * echo $DISPLAY [06:49] and see what displays your cron has [06:49] will do [06:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:51] and stop it quickly so it doesn't spam your email too heavily [06:53] nothin seems to be happing [06:53] crontab -l reveals * * * * * echo $DISPLAY [06:54] i tried * * * * * echo $DISPLAY >> dis.txt [06:54] and got blank lines [06:54] but in my original mplayer cron job i set the DISPLAY=:0 [06:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [06:56] right, well, what you cant do in ssh, you cant do in cron [06:56] tryin DISPLAY=:0.0 now [06:58] Grey (~Grey@toronto-HSE-ppp4309146.sympatico.ca) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:58] Grey (~Grey@toronto-HSE-ppp4309146.sympatico.ca) joined #linuxhelp. [06:59] I can't run X apps as root - the server won't allow it unless I run 'xhost +' which seems to me a security risk. Hostname is 'slate' but 'xhost +slate' does nothing; if I set DISPLAY to slate:0.0 or localhost:0.0 the apps run but nothing displays on the screen. [07:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:00] Writing user file... [07:00] Writing channel file... [07:00] aarrrggg [07:00] Wait, you working on the same error? [07:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [07:01] nah im tryna get mplayer to execute normally through cron [07:01] hlen (~hlen@201008141073.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:02] lurch_ (~lurch@38.198-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) joined #linuxhelp. [07:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:05] Aldaron (1000@ip212-226-171-98.adsl.kpnqwest.fi) joined #linuxhelp. [07:07] slackware advisory recently issued a patch for zlib; how can i find which apps use zlib; no info for that at slackware or zlib sites [07:07] hlen (~hlen@201008141073.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined #linuxhelp. [07:08] webwolf_27 (~jeremy@DSL01.83.171.154.127.NEFkom.net) joined #linuxhelp. [07:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:10] yoink (~yoink@MTL-HSE-ppp165512.qc.sympatico.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [07:10] gnubien: iirc zlib is a compression lib, so at least gzip? [07:11] alunduil (~alunduil@134.129.186.183) joined #linuxhelp. [07:11] Aldaron: zlib IS a compression lib [07:11] Aldaron: k, thanks for the info [07:11] webwolf_27: gzip and zlib are 2 diff compression libs? [07:12] gnubien, no gzip uses zlib [07:12] webwolf_27: k, thanks [07:13] Nosf3ratu (~zrizer@adsl-70-228-90-29.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) joined #linuxhelp. [07:13] iirc gzip released a update pkg recently too [07:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:18] Hm.. It seems that the slackware bugfix package appeared before the bug notice on zlib.net even though zlib.net doesn't distribute a fixed thing yet [07:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:21] Can anyone help me with routing? I'm looking at Linux Advanced Routing & Traffic Control Howto, doing what it says for routing for multiple uplinks, but "ip route add NET dev eth1 src IP table net2" fails with "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument". Seems to depend on the src argument. [07:22] Aldaron: zlib and other patches for slackware 10.1 at: ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-10.1/patches/PACKAGES.TXT [07:24] Aldaron: info at freshmeat.net search: iproute2 and hardwall [07:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:25] Aldaron: that info is about traffic shaping [07:27] phyrster ([U2FsdGVkX@c9217a91f7ba16fd.session.tor) joined #linuxhelp. [07:27] anyone using fetchmail as a demon ? [07:28] I use debian + fetchmail demon but it seems doesn't retrieve mails. [07:28] gnubien, thanks, I'll try that [07:28] I put fetchmailrc of user "me" in /etc/ [07:28] but how does fetchmail know which mail box to deliver????? [07:28] who knows!!!!!!! [07:28] or which location/dir to deliver??? [07:29] please!!! I'm 13!!! [07:29] spike: haven't lost your cherry? [07:29] Alfa|WERK (~AlfaWolph@12.151.193.50) joined #linuxhelp. [07:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [07:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/149 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/149 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:30] spike... i don't see the question [07:30] ahahahah [07:31] if I want to launch mutt without using a console, how to do it? [07:32] phyrster: how do u lunch a graphic program without X? [07:32] what do you mean without a console? [07:33] pjv (~pjv@61.68.145.10) left irc: "Leaving" [07:33] Mxyzpltk (~fede@216.194.173.2) left #linuxhelp ("Client exiting"). [07:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:35] randykay (~randykay@216.123.239.131) joined #linuxhelp. [07:36] Hello all. [07:37] hi [07:37] Is there a way to set the printer fonts in Evolution. Mine are way too big. [07:37] sphenxes (~sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) joined #linuxhelp. [07:39] kyncani (~kyncani@lns-vlq-25-ren-82-254-145-48.adsl.proxad.net) joined #linuxhelp. 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[07:43] iNode (~asd@a14.botevgrad.com) left irc: "Leaving" [07:44] kmn (~kayemen@24.222.94.50) left #linuxhelp ("Leaving"). [07:44] "ø" [07:44] Ohhhhhh... I think I solved my routing problem. Typo. Yeah right. I had set up eth1's IP address a lot off :P [07:44] torbjorn that's right. i don't know what tab-complete means [07:44] jonkri: Tab completion is when you type the first couple of letters of a persons nick, then hit the 'tab key' to complete it [07:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:45] Hawkwind oh, ok. thanks. sure [07:45] ... or first couple of letters that will produce a completion in what-ever context [07:45] perl -le 'print chr 248' # then copy paste where you need it :) [07:45] torbjorn of course [07:45] that's nice [07:46] torbjorn where's the upper case one? [07:46] 216 [07:46] do you have a danish keyboard? [07:46] torbjorn no, i don't [07:47] torbjorn this is for a very tricky password :) [07:47] perl -le 'print $_," ",chr for 1..255' | less # for some fun [07:47] hehe :) [07:47] lemme guess, Øl [07:47] torbjorn hahahahaha....... no [07:47] close? ;p [07:48] torbjorn torbjorn not at all :) [07:48] torbjorn but wait a minute. i can't use `perl` when i'm typing in a password [07:48] torbjorn do i have to do it command line? [07:48] just copy-paste it [07:48] with your mouse [07:49] torbjorn but i copy pasted such a character from the web, but it wouldn't paste in the ssh shell [07:49] torbjorn but it could be pasted in my "normal" gnome-terminal [07:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:50] what ssh client is this? [07:50] and on what os? [07:50] uh, wouldn't alt-### on the keypad work? [07:50] chiico (~fgbmnfjk@mail.sfil.com.br) joined #linuxhelp. [07:50] torbjorn OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 Debian-8.sarge.4, OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004 [07:50] i believe that is a feature of one of those alternative os'es... [07:50] hello. how i kill one process, that no want fie? [07:50] fie=die [07:50] kill -9 [07:50] sphenxes (~sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:51] sphenxes (~sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) joined #linuxhelp. [07:51] jonkri: well.. just select it with your mouse, then mid-button paste it when you need it [07:52] thanks. just for sure. [07:52] it die ;) [07:52] chiico: what prosess was this? [07:52] someone do 'vim somefile' [07:52] torbjorn it does not work. nothing is pasted. if i copy something else along with the characters, that something else is the only thing that is pasted [07:53] and become 10 days runing, and cpu=99.9% for it :S [07:53] oh. bummer. [07:53] chiico: i cant stand vim. but i learned :q! [07:53] hmm with irssi, is there a nicer way to get to a screen i was chatting in other than doing /window previous and flicking through all of them until i find the one i want [07:53] jonkri: bring your own keyboard next time [07:53] jonkri: alt+digit [07:54] and alt+letters on the qwerty row [07:54] torbjorn this is my own keyboard. i'm not even danish ;) [07:54] right, then give me the password and i will login and change it for you :) [07:54] torbjorn sorry, can't do that. not my password :) [07:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [07:55] damn [07:55] jons (~jons@madoka.mistral.net) left #linuxhelp. [07:55] torbjorn i can't find the correct character among with alt and the qwe or asd or zxc rows [07:55] change the keyboard configuration of your debian to reflect that of a danish keyboard [07:55] and then pray you remember correctly where the keys are [07:56] but it appears that this has something to do with the server since i'm successfully is pasting the danish characters in my gnome-terminals [07:56] you might also concider the usage of different charsets of the systems in question [07:56] regeya (~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com) joined #linuxhelp. [07:57] i guess you have some sort of latin1 in the danish'ish ssh server [07:58] torbjorn i'm not sure of that. i can't use the swedish local characters either. my guess is that the charset is in english [07:58] torbjorn which is very bad since i can't become root! [07:58] charset definition goes beyond national languages [07:58] Is there a way I could test the network to find out if a package can get from A to B? The link itself doesn't work, but I'd want to know more.. [07:58] anyway, im off to home [07:59] ok torbjorn, thanks for your help [07:59] is there a way to change charset without becoming root? [08:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [08:00] Writing user file... [08:00] Writing channel file... [08:00] you need to change it on your local system, not the ssh server [08:00] Aldaron: man traceroute [08:00] but the characters work on my local system but does not appear on the ssh server [08:00] exactly, because you speak different charsets [08:00] change either. [08:00] the local system seems.. easier [08:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [08:01] then change root password of the remote server [08:01] oh, thanks! [08:02] have a nice day [08:02] the same to you [08:02] MetaCosm (~rmelton@MetaCosm.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:02] how do i change a charset in debian? :-) [08:02] gnubien: Ah, I dismissed that at first for the problem at hand but it seems you [08:02] oh, there was a tool in gnome! nevermind and sorry [08:02] are right, traceroute has the -s option I need :). Thanks [08:03] RiotGeek (~brad@astound-69-42-5-49.ca.astound.net) joined #linuxhelp. [08:04] Aldaron: cool [08:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [08:07] how can i see what charset is being used? [08:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [08:10] is there a standard command-line tool? [08:11] MetaCosm (~rmelton@MetaCosm.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) joined #linuxhelp. [08:12] sphenxes (~sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) left irc: "Leaving" [08:13] google charset util linux [08:13] charset util linux: http://maconlinux.net/linux-man-pages/en/HTTP::Headers::Util.3.html [08:13] google charset linux [08:13] Grey (~Grey@toronto-HSE-ppp4309146.sympatico.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:13] charset linux: http://maconlinux.net/linux-man-pages/en/FcCharSetAddChar.3.html [08:13] Grey (~Grey@toronto-HSE-ppp4309146.sympatico.ca) joined #linuxhelp. [08:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [08:16] jonkri: look in man loadkeys xmodmap maybe [08:16] jonkri: man keymaps [08:17] gnubien thank you [08:18] jonkri: hope it helps, i can not find any util to do what you want [08:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [08:20] gnubien my goal is to be able to print a character that cannot be pasted into my ssh session but can be pasted to my local gnome-terminal [08:20] it's really wierd [08:21] jonkri: yes, i have been reading your earlier posts to this chan [08:22] [Relic] (~therelic@ppp-69-211-92-215.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) joined #linuxhelp. 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[09:00] Is it possible to specify gzip-specific options when using the 'z' option in tar? [09:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [09:01] sekhmet: I don't think so. Just use gzip -dc9etc foo.tar.gz | tar xf - [09:02] yunao (~kemin@china.uran.net.ua) left irc: Client Quit [09:03] Yeah, isn't looking like it. Had been hoping to avoid pipes. Ah, well. [09:04] boerst` (~boerst@p54B06135.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #linuxhelp. [09:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/149 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/149 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:05] why? what's so bad about pipes? :) [09:07] SenSLavE (~dvine@192.198.152.228) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:09] usn (~usn@p54B5A6E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #linuxhelp. [09:09] boerst (~boerst@p54B054A8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:11] keter (keter@ool-44c26302.dyn.optonline.net) joined #linuxhelp. [09:13] Norky: Nothing, had just been forking processes via another call [09:13] So it's nice to be able to use system() w/ arguments rather than spitting out full strings w/ pipes [09:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/149 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/149 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:15] martin_ (~baua@host.ihp-ffo.de) joined #linuxhelp. [09:15] where can i find all kermel SYMBOLS? [09:16] martin_: /proc/ksyms [09:16] If you've got that enabled, anyway (I think that's optional) [09:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/150 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/150 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:20] wims (~wims@ti211310a080-13421.bb.online.no) joined #linuxhelp. [09:20] Does anybody know of a good howto or walkthrough for multiple monitor setup on x.org ? [09:21] the man file [09:21] man xorg.conf [09:21] k [09:21] helped me anyway [09:21] if you can't figure it out just msg me later [09:22] i did a EXPORT_SYMBOL and after loading the module the symbol isn't in the table? [09:23] spiekey_ (~spiekey@p549D2847.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #linuxhelp. [09:23] sekhmet: I didn't realise system() wouldn't run on, for example, bash -e gzip -dc foo.tgz| tar tf - [09:23] xmb (~xmb@80-218-17-179.dclient.hispeed.ch) joined #linuxhelp. [09:23] is it possible to somehow redirect running local X apps to a remote X? [09:24] Norky: It *does* but you can't do it the 'safe' way [09:24] sure it would work on a shell script which contained the requisite tar and gzip/bzip2 invocation? [09:24] how anyway [09:24] nm [09:24] s/sure/surely/g? [09:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/153 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/153 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:25] Norky: 'cause in the root "exec" call you end up doing, like, ('bash', '-e', 'gzip', '-dc', ...) [09:25] Norky: Which makes sure that your args are passed properly and don't run into problems with spaces, etc. [09:25] Norky: If you're using pipes or whatever, you can still do it, with just system("bash -e gzip -dc....") [09:26] Dr_Willis (~willis@12-222-71-130.client.insightBB.com) joined #linuxhelp. [09:26] Norky: It just doesn't encapsulate the arguments in the most pedantic way. [09:26] lesshaste (~lesshaste@lesshaste.plus.com) joined #linuxhelp. [09:26] martin_ (~baua@host.ihp-ffo.de) left irc: "Leaving" [09:27] can any play any of the vids on http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mathematics/18-06Linear-AlgebraFall2002/VideoLectures/index.htm ? [09:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [09:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/154 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/154 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:31] sekhmet: you're rapidly approaching the limits of my understanding (I am not a programmer) ;) [09:32] Norky (~dan@154.32.36.31) left irc: "shell script is only free to those whose variable has no value" [09:33] wims (~wims@ti211310a080-13421.bb.online.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:33] jonkri (~jon@1-1-3-12a.gka.gbg.bostream.se) left irc: "BitchX: the cure for the common client" [09:33] lesshaste: xine chokes looking for sipr.so.6 and drvr3.so.6 [09:33] gnubien, thx [09:34] HellTiger (helltiger@p54916231.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:34] Rom|000freenode (tor@0bd3e37c9b5829ac.session.tor) joined #linuxhelp. [09:34] Schiz0 (~Schiz0@pool-68-163-60-64.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #linuxhelp. [09:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/152 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/152 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:35] lesshaste: your webpage? [09:35] yunao (~kemin@china.uran.net.ua) joined #linuxhelp. [09:35] lesshaste: They're streams, no downloads. [09:35] Download the .rm file and open it with mplayer. [09:35] daniel_, I have magic ways :) [09:35] you can't download it officially [09:36] sphenxes (~sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) joined #linuxhelp. [09:37] lesshaste: wget will dl the file, xine chokes with same errors [09:38] gnubien, really? It doesn't download it for me [09:38] Are you sure? [09:38] lesshaste: yea, wget the url in hard quotes 'http://mfile.akamai.com/7870/rm/mitstorage.download.akamai.com/7870/18/18.06/videolectures/strang-1806-lec01-26aug1999-220k.rm' [09:38] goblen (~test@66.162.192.7) joined #linuxhelp. [09:38] spiekey (~spiekey@p549D01C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:39] hi, is there an alternative to placing firewall rules in iptables (that still resides on the box to be firewalled)? [09:39] Hmm... [09:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/154 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/154 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:40] Romster (~Romster@31bb214a9767142a.session.tor) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:40] goblen: Hm? [09:40] Nick change: Rom|000freenode -> Romster [09:40] you mean alternatives to useing the iptables commands? or a file storeing the commands? [09:40] Romster (tor@0bd3e37c9b5829ac.session.tor) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:40] I was unaware when setting up some firewall rules that 878+ firewall rules in iptables could cause the kernel to just choke [09:40] StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #linuxhelp. [09:41] gnubien, I think you are confused :) That just downloads a short text file! [09:41] hondza (~hondza@hondza.user) left #linuxhelp. [09:41] so I was wondering if there was alternative to placing rules in iptables that would take the load off of the kernel [09:42] lesshaste: oops, you are correct, just a file with urls [09:42] goblen: Hm *I* wonder if you really need 878 rules. [09:42] Nick change: punkcut__ -> Punkcut [09:42] gnubien, to download the actual stream you need to get mplayer to play it [09:42] Romster (~Romster@31261891786fbd84.session.tor) joined #linuxhelp. [09:43] lesshaste: k, streaming file for mplayer? [09:43] daniel_: I'm running APF, which has a few things that automatically detect attacks and adds drop rules... [09:43] goblen: Doesn't the APF documentation tell you something? [09:43] Perhaps it's a kernel misconfiguration. [09:44] linuxfreck (~freck@fry.fmi.uni-passau.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/152 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/152 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:45] well, kernel network and packet filtering code in general doesn't report activity for IOWAIT calculation, since it doesn't live in userland. so the packet filtering activity goes unnoticed... [09:45] so I believe there are no checks and balances [09:46] gnubien, yes but I can't play it in mplayer :( [09:46] What can't you play in mplayer? [09:47] A .rm video stream. [09:47] 'http://mfile.akamai.com/7870/rm/mitstorage.download.akamai.com/7870/18/18.06/videolectures/strang-1806-lec01-26aug1999-220k.rm [09:47] simplyskate (~chad@cpc4-stme1-5-1-cust124.cdif.cable.ntl.com) joined #linuxhelp. [09:47] it asks for avisynth.dll! [09:47] Then google for avisynth.dll ? [09:48] Schiz0, and then? [09:48] OH NO NOT GOOGLE! [09:48] Schiz0, or were you just thinking I might not have heard of web searching?? [09:48] t35t0r (~huh@160.129.14.233) joined #linuxhelp. [09:48] then download and put it where it's looking for it? [09:48] I have a very strange problem in using gdb/ddd: I set a breakpoint on this file http://rafb.net/paste/results/v0L3M235.html line 5, the calling program is here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3O644z30.html . GDB/DDD break on line 5 but when I try any of the commands step, stepi, next, or nexti the gdb quits the program with: "Program exited normally". What is strange is that I can set a breakpoint on line 6, and that works ..so why can I not trace past line [09:48] 5? I'm using gdb v6.3 and ddd v3.3.11, the same error occurs using the gdb command line or ddd. [09:48] Schiz0, umm... you really are stupid aren't you? [09:48] hey can anyone help? im having a dropped frames problem in xine [09:48] simplyskate, use mplayer :) [09:49] Kream (~karim@61.16.182.4) joined #linuxhelp. [09:49] be sure ytou got dma enabled for your dvd drive also [09:49] Should I be worried ? my kernel log is flooded with these type of messages : 22:13:35 kernel IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:11:5b:f4:5d:7e:00:11:22:33:44:65:08:00 SRC=201.246.3.16 DST=61.16.182.4 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108 ID=54908 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=61314 DPT=10546 WINDOW=8192 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 [09:49] lesshaste- What the fuck is your problem? [09:49] hey Kream :) [09:49] when i use mplayer, i then get some audio problems and also when playing one dvd i get an mpeg problem aswell i think [09:49] It's asking for a file, then get the fucking file and then see what happens dumbass. [09:49] Kream: you installed firewall rules recently, didn't you? [09:49] Schiz0, you stupid reply. Of course I have done a web search. [09:49] spike: :) hey ... took your advice and am blown away by smoothwall... [09:49] Schiz0, the problem is more subtle than that [09:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/155 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/155 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:50] Kream: good :) [09:50] And I knew this how? [09:50] oh, and yeah i do have dma enabled [09:50] Schiz0, and your knee jerk illinformed reply was very annoying [09:50] goblen: well, I installed smoothwall... haven't done any work with firewalls before - straight masquerading is as far as I've gone. [09:50] Schiz0, exactly.. you didn't know. So don't speak if you don't know [09:50] Schiz0 lesshaste: u both watch the language please [09:50] spike: now my ISP gives me free, unlimited internet connectivity... [09:50] You're the one who neglected to inform me anything else other then it was asking for that file. [09:50] spike, sure. No swearing from me :) [09:50] Schiz0, look back at your reply. You replied without knowing anything [09:50] he was actually using a windows machine for a gateway ... [09:51] i also just installed ogle, and i get the same audio problem as well [09:51] Action: Kream looks around... hmmm [09:51] Kream: well, do u know those ips? both DST and SRC port are high ports, and it doesn't look like any normal scan [09:52] spike: no, AFAICS the external IP is being scanned/attempted to be accessed by a machine from Peru... [09:53] Kream: nm, it must be a scan, unless u're the owner of the SRC ip. that's an adsl, so it's a windows zombie [09:54] yeah, that's my estimation as well. [09:54] lesshaste: any ideas on what i should do? [09:54] simplyskate, mplayer? [09:54] spike: snort is telling me i'm being portscanned ... a lot. [09:54] simplyskate, ah... right.. [09:54] simplyskate, what problems with mplayer? [09:54] an entire class b network in peru is freakin scanning me [09:54] Simkin (~Simkin@zz150077.cipherkey.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:54] Kream, hola Lima! [09:54] Kream: did u customize snort? snort is famous for its load of false positive [09:54] Action: Kream sighs. [09:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/154 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/154 b/1 e/- I/-] [09:55] spike: no, I haven't customised snort. the firewall is little more than a few hours old [09:55] hmm.. If I just want to -dumpstream in mplayer can I turn off video/audio output altogether? [09:55] then it's normal, don't be too worried about it. and work hard to reduce the false posite, that's all what working with snort is about [09:56] lesshaste: yes, a -vo null -ao null will help [09:56] gnubien (~e@94.244.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [09:56] lesshaste: um... well theres an audio problem when i try to play one dvd in mplayer, and i also get another problem when i try to play another dvd in mplayer aswell, i think its to do with it being mpeg i cant remember. i havnt tried it with any other dvd's yet though... but i shall get the details of the audio problem now [09:56] Kream: btw, when u said u're flooded with "these", u mean exactly same line or different ones too? [09:56] Kream, thx [09:56] Kream: I'm mostly thinking in term of the dst port [09:57] Kream Should I be worried ? my kernel log is flooded with these type of messages : [09:57] simplyskate, also.. copy some of it to the hard drive and see if it is any better [09:57] simplyskate, check "top" too [09:57] DST changes [09:57] spike: sorry, SRC changes [09:57] is it progressive? [09:57] Kream, only if you don't trust the services you are running ;) [09:57] dst is the same? [09:57] Kream: how? [09:57] SRC appears random, [09:58] will paste a few IPs.. [09:58] Kream: what about dst? [09:58] louish (~louis@66.244.192.226) left irc: "Leaving" [09:58] no no, port, not ips [09:58] that would be DPT, right ? [09:58] lesshaste: [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy [09:58] ... i also get this problem in ogle [09:58] oh, sry, my bad, typo [09:58] wow. [09:59] Kream: yes, DPT, sry again [09:59] simplyskate, lsof /dev/dsp [09:59] it's all to port 10546 [09:59] Action: Kream looks fr the portlist [09:59] Kream: and src ip changes all the times? [09:59] Kream: port unkown [09:59] Simkin (~Simkin@zz150077.cipherkey.net) joined #linuxhelp. [10:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/153 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/153 b/1 e/- I/-] [10:00] Writing user file... [10:00] Writing channel file... [10:00] lesshaste: nothing comes up [10:00] SRC changes, DST is static (it's my external IP) SPT changes. DPT is static . basically, tons of machines are trying to access port 10546 on my machine [10:00] simplyskate, tried -ao esd ? [10:00] simplyskate, or -ao oss ? [10:00] Kream: maybe a typo of the botnet owner [10:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [10:01] bastard. [10:01] Kream: because that's just a botnet, that's why all the different SRC [10:01] goblen (~test@66.162.192.7) left irc: [10:01] well, up until a few hours ago, it was a windows xp machine sharing a single IP over about 100 computers using winroute [10:01] ok,then u were part of the botnet, congrats ;) [10:02] and the bot runs on that port [10:02] lesshaste: nothing [10:03] ugh. [10:03] hmm..very odd... don't know then [10:03] try the mplayer mailing list [10:03] frog (~magda@wbbi189.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de) joined #linuxhelp. [10:03] Kream: do u do egress filtering? [10:03] i should, right ? [10:03] right :) [10:03] okay cheers [10:03] bye [10:04] simplyskate (~chad@cpc4-stme1-5-1-cust124.cdif.cable.ntl.com) left #linuxhelp ("Leaving"). [10:04] actually if everybody was doing egress we'd have less then a tenth of the hassle [10:04] it's my dang ISP's gateway... [10:04] spike: http://www.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp/~j02057/unix/level3_4_5/result345.html [10:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/152 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/152 b/1 e/- I/-] [10:06] damn - none of these blackhat pages are in English [10:06] expecially with windoze machine on the LAN egress can save ur ass [10:06] and none in Hindi either :) [10:06] hedpe (~hedpe@69-164-187-27.pittpa.adelphia.net) joined #linuxhelp. [10:06] it doesn't really matter, just forget about it [10:06] how can you get the filesize of a folder and all its file's recursively [10:06] hedpe: man du [10:07] hedpe: or man find and look at the -exec option, and combine it with du [10:07] hi silly question -> i wanna mount usb device. its on bus 001 device 009. could someone tell me the proper syntax,pls? anyhow mount /dev/sdXX /mnt/usb1. what should i write fror both Xs? [10:08] frog: check out syslog, when u plugged it in it told you which XX it's on [10:08] lesshaste (~lesshaste@lesshaste.plus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:08] thanks [10:08] frog: but if u have no other usb storage/scsi devices, it's likely to be sda1 [10:09] I'm off, bye [10:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/152 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/152 b/1 e/- I/-] [10:10] spike: ty, anyhow i have disabled hotplug [10:10] Kream: and really, don't worry too much, until u do some tunings u're gonna receive loads of alert from snort, and considering all the botnets around all of us are daily scanned thousands times [10:11] louish (~louis@66.244.192.226) joined #linuxhelp. [10:11] frog: then try to mount /dev/sda1 or even /dev/sda [10:11] it doesnt work. and i have 3 others usb ports [10:12] spike: more of a long term question [10:12] frog: is it an sub key? [10:12] spike: what do you think the prognosis is wrt botnets etc ? [10:13] Simkin (~Simkin@zz150077.cipherkey.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:13] Kream: hang on, there's a nice pdf about a 2 years research made on botnets using honeypots [10:13] so in log i fould device found at 13. & ansi scsi revision: 02 [10:13] it's been published lately, so numbers and stats are good too [10:13] cool [10:14] spike, what do you mean w/ sub key ? [10:14] here u go [10:14] Kream: http://www.honeynet.org/papers/bots/ [10:14] it's a good introduction to botnets [10:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/152 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/152 b/1 e/- I/-] [10:15] frog: usb key [10:15] frog: did u try /dev/sda? is the device actually formatted [10:16] spike : its a cell phone [10:16] frog: what does mount say? do u actually have the proper support to mount such device? [10:16] ah, and what are u supposed to mount? [10:16] it has a sort of hd? have u googled for an howto? or are we talking of syncing addressbook and the like? [10:16] /dev/sda says : you must specify the file type spike [10:17] hedpe (~hedpe@69-164-187-27.pittpa.adelphia.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:18] frog: and please when asking questions, as the topic says, "be precise and descriptive". of course which device u're talking about isnt' a minor detail... [10:18] anyway, I'm off [10:18] later Kream [10:18] thanks, reading hard [10:19] mount has a -t option. [10:19] ie: -t vfat , or -t ext3 [10:19] louish (~louis@66.244.192.226) left irc: "Leaving" [10:19] Caranthir (~kspencer@12-222-171-80.client.insightBB.com) joined #linuxhelp. [10:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/151 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/151 b/1 e/- I/-] [10:20] is there an xp help channel on freenode? [10:20] Simkin (~Simkin@mail.vtpg.com) joined #linuxhelp. [10:20] Action: Schiz0 is away: Gone... [10:20] Nick change: Schiz0 -> Schiz0|Away [10:21] spike: i guess i was precise enough. just wanted to know how can i figure out which letters should i assign to my usb storage [10:21] spike (~spike@spike.user) left irc: "pluff" [10:21] Caranthir (~kspencer@12-222-171-80.client.insightBB.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:24] letters you assign? [10:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/150 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/150 b/1 e/- I/-] [10:28] torf (~torf@wl-13.wlan.uni-konstanz.de) joined #linuxhelp. [10:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [10:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/151 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/151 b/1 e/- I/-] [10:35] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [10:35] Nosf3ratu (~zrizer@adsl-70-228-90-29.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "We dance to all the wrong songs." [10:36] Chente (wazup@200-85-198-64.bk3-dsl.surnet.cl) joined #linuxhelp. [10:36] como descomprimo un archivo zip ?? [10:38] HELLO, I NEED HELP. i want boot one redhat 9.0 cd1 to install it, in one aic79xx card, but the system hands in fisrt probe [10:38] i think i need use drvblock.img [10:38] but how i load this image? [10:39] it freeze in Loading SCSI driver:Loading aic79xx [10:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/151 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/151 b/1 e/- I/-] [10:40] Chente (wazup@200-85-198-64.bk3-dsl.surnet.cl) left irc: "changing servers" [10:42] spiekey_ (~spiekey@p549D2847.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left #linuxhelp. [10:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/149 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/149 b/1 e/- I/-] [10:47] PLEASE [10:48] ask #redhat , because that's their installer. they should know how to do that. 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[10:58] Nick change: amrit|zzz -> amrit [11:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/150 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/150 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:00] Writing user file... [11:00] Writing channel file... [11:00] hedpe (~hedpe@69-164-187-27.pittpa.adelphia.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [11:01] louish (~louis@66.244.192.226) joined #linuxhelp. [11:01] kreg (~kreg@209.161.26.78) joined #linuxhelp. [11:01] kreg (~kreg@209.161.26.78) left irc: Client Quit [11:04] Dumann (~bren_duma@ipd50a76c0.speed.planet.nl) joined #linuxhelp. [11:04] hello [11:04] Dk0rr (~none762@cpe-24-194-171-176.nycap.res.rr.com) joined #linuxhelp. [11:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/152 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/152 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:05] hiddy Hoo! [11:05] I tried rpm on debian, but it doesnt seem to work [11:05] Is anyone an Operator in #debianppc? [11:05] debian dosent use rpm's [11:05] Simonrvn (simon@simonrv.user simon raven) kicked me because he did not want me mapping control+c to command+c. [11:05] Dumann- Use Alien to insatall rpms on deibna [11:05] i dont know what alien is [11:05] The conversation is logged at http://dk0r.org/log/debianppc.20050713.log [11:05] dammit Dk0rr you said the same message on the other chan. [11:05] Dumann- install it? [11:05] I do not feel that I insulted the operator, or was vulgar in any manner. I believe simonrvn abused his privileges as an operator, and I request having my ban lifted. Thankyou. [11:05] thers ways of makeing it use them.. but you are better off finding the correct packages [11:06] it is a system for install other package formats on debian systems [11:06] apt-cache show alien [11:06] so i downnloaded the webmin-1.210.tar.gz and unzipped. how to install it now? [11:06] webmin should have native debian backages also. [11:06] webmin's install procedure is documented at the webmin site. Its fairly straight forward [11:06] i searched already on their site :/ [11:07] then look again.. Webmin is very well documented. I know its either on the site - or in the readme that you just uncompressed. [11:07] proberly in both places. :P [11:07] thats the problem, there is no readme lol [11:08] xmb (~xmb@80-218-17-179.dclient.hispeed.ch) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:08] try 'apt-cache search webmin' and see if you can install it the correct way with apt. [11:09] http://www.webmin.com/download.html ---> Installing the tar.gz file [11:09] its detailed right there. :P [11:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/151 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/151 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:10] however you are BETTER off useing apt-get install webmin (if your repositories are correct) [11:11] Nick change: V[-]L7r[-]N -> v0L7r[-]n [11:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/151 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/151 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:15] [Relic] (~relic@ppp-69-211-92-215.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:17] yes, but it installed the wrong version [11:17] with that version i can not add linux users :) [11:18] (module update requires newer version) [11:18] but thnx anyway, it works now [11:19] Schiz0 (~Schiz0@pool-68-163-60-64.phil.east.verizon.net) left irc: "return 0;" [11:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/149 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/149 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:23] HellTiger (helltiger@p54915B78.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #linuxhelp. [11:23] torf (~torf@wl-13.wlan.uni-konstanz.de) left irc: "www.torfbold.com" [11:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/149 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/149 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:26] hedpe (~hedpe@69-164-187-27.pittpa.adelphia.net) joined #linuxhelp. [11:26] i do this command: "mkfs.vfat -F 32 -I -n "LaptopHD" /dev/sdd1" ... but when i do "fdisk -l", I see: "/dev/sdd1 1 2431 19526976 7 HPFS/NTFS" ... why is my format not changing it over to vfat? it is still NTFS [11:27] hedpe: possibly your partition table flag is not updated. odd, though. [11:27] hedpe: can you mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /mnt/somewhere ? [11:27] yunao (~kemin@china.uran.net.ua) left irc: Client Quit [11:27] hedpe: once that's done, run mount w/o any arguments, to see what format it's mounted in . [11:28] louish (~louis@66.244.192.226) left irc: "Leaving" [11:28] if it's mounted as vfat all right, then your partition table might not have been re-read [11:28] hedpe: so reboot [11:28] hedpe: if rebooting doesn't help, then edit the partition flag. [11:28] hedpe: if editing the partition flag doesn't help, call an exorcist. [11:29] /dev/sdd1 on /mnt/laptophd type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=hedpe) [11:29] thereendeththelesson [11:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [11:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:39] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [11:39] zap_ (~zap@p54A53819.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #linuxhelp. [11:39] Dk0rr (~none762@cpe-24-194-171-176.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: [11:39] lesshaste (~lesshaste@lesshaste.plus.com) joined #linuxhelp. [11:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/149 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/149 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:40] how would you explain the following phenomenon? i have mounted a cdrom. df -h shows 149 M while du -sh /mnt/cdrom shows 16M. [11:40] what's the easiest way to make a .mp4 video from real format? [11:41] lesshaste: mencoder - you just need the codecs [11:41] RichiH, ok.. I have them... The command line looks impossibly difficult though [11:42] Action: Kream grins [11:42] lesshaste: man mencoder :) [11:42] it's not _that_ hard [11:42] but you have to invest into a bit of reading [11:42] RichiH, yes... have you tried using it from the man page? [11:43] else, search freshmeat.net or sourceforge [11:43] lesshaste: yes, i have, on two occasions [11:44] Dr_Willis (~willis@12-222-71-130.client.insightBB.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:44] RichiH: actually, I'd disagree with you there. It's quite hard. [11:44] zap_ (~zap@p54A53819.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:44] RichiH: mencoder and mplayer could have had split manpages [11:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:45] Kream: that's true [11:45] that would be a start [11:45] otoh, some parts are for both [11:45] just a start, but yeah [11:45] RichiH: control c control v [11:46] also .. there are examples of converting from one format to another AFAIK [11:46] Kream: you mean shift v, y and p? ,) [11:46] not a single example of two pass encoding [11:46] or three pass [11:46] :) [11:46] lesshaste: well, there is a way. [11:46] lesshaste: do you have a dvd reader and at least one readable video dvd ? [11:46] yep [11:47] Kream, no dvd [11:47] lesshaste: sad. [11:47] Kream, I have a real video file [11:47] Kream, did you want me to do something with it ? :) [11:47] if you did, you could have done this [11:47] Nick change: amrit -> amrit|afk [11:47] install dvd:rip, rip the dvd. very very illuminating 2/3 pass rip options are given . [11:48] use those as a foundation to further figure out the encoding process. [11:48] I am bit confused [11:48] what is dvd:rip? [11:48] lesshaste: sorry, it's past midnight here. am sleepy [11:48] no probs [11:48] it is 19:48 here. Sleepy too :) [11:48] When I try to load Windows (on hda1, by referencing (hd0,0)) with grub it tells me the partition type is 0x82 (swap), so i think my device map is bad. Trial and Error tells me its also not hd1 or hd3, and when i try to boot (hd2,0) i just get a grub shell. Help? [11:49] lesshaste: when you dvd:rip, dvd:rip shows you the commands it issues [11:49] Kream, ah right [11:49] lesshaste: which those greater than us have found out after much trial and error [11:49] :) [11:49] lesshaste: best of luck [11:49] ok thx [11:49] sparr_: what is it that you're trying to accomplish ? [11:49] I know the solution [11:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:50] search the web :) [11:50] Kream: i want to be able to boot linux or windows from grub [11:50] lesshaste: or find out what dvdrip thinks are good commands [11:50] Kream, there are docs on the mplayer web site. I will play with them... [11:50] sparr_: have you looked at some of the several dualboot howtos on the web ? and which version of windows are you planning on ? [11:50] or maybe you coudl run dvd:rip for me :) ? [11:50] Kream: yes. xp. [11:51] Kream: what distros? [11:51] err sparr_ kream: what distro? [11:51] Punkcut: ? [11:51] ah [11:51] Punkcut: debian [11:51] lol easy one [11:51] brb [11:51] Action: Kream raises eyes :) [11:51] well then [11:52] afaik the windows partition has to be on the first partition of the master hard drive [11:52] it is [11:52] hda1, primary master [11:52] sparr_: then your partition table signature for /dev/hda1 is wrong. [11:53] did you change it while you were formatting it ? [11:53] not according to fdisk -l [11:53] ./dev/hda1 * 1 608 4883728+ b W95 FAT32 [11:53] sparr_: does fdisk -l say it is a swap signature ? [11:53] hmmmmmm [11:53] grub ; [11:53] root (hd0,0) [11:53] oops! [11:53] no! [11:54] Action: Kream really should go to bed now [11:54] hdc1 hdd1 hde1 hdg1 <--- swap partitions [11:54] hda1 is windows [11:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [11:55] sparr_: my apologies, too tired to do anything but collapse [11:55] process of elimination of (hdN,0) in grub tells me which ones it thinks are swap or dont exist, and (hd2,0) is the only one left [11:55] ok [11:55] gnite [11:55] Kream (~karim@61.16.182.4) left #linuxhelp ("Leaving"). [11:55] jonx (~Jonx@64-215-159-30.eosinc.net) joined #linuxhelp. [11:55] sparr_: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html | http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/16/1919205&tid=129&tid=49 [11:55] ill get some more if youd like [11:55] MetaCosm_ (~rmelton@MetaCosm.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) joined #linuxhelp. [11:57] sparr_: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html [11:57] Punkcut: first one... i dont want windows to boot linux, i want grub to boot windows. [11:58] second one... doesnt apply [11:58] third one ive read [12:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [12:00] Writing user file... [12:00] Writing channel file... [12:00] just install grub on hda [12:00] title="Windows OS" [12:00] root (hd0,0) [12:00] chainloader +1 [12:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [12:01] and the second one had a bit about using grub to do it [12:01] Punkcut: thats what ive done [12:01] kevincw01 (~824c4010@72.22.64.192) joined #linuxhelp. [12:02] why doesnt it work? [12:02] MetaCosm (~rmelton@MetaCosm.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:02] sleeper (~Jonx@64-215-159-30.eosinc.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:02] sparr_: apt-get install pinfo && pinfo grub [12:02] according to the #debian people [12:03] Hawkwind (~SoS@Hawkwind.channel-support-Mandriva.linuxfordummies) left irc: "I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!" [12:03] if i knew why it didnt work id fix it [12:03] jonx (~Jonx@64-215-159-30.eosinc.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:03] Hawkwind (~SoS@Hawkwind.channel-support-Mandriva.linuxfordummies) joined #linuxhelp. [12:04] lol well there has to be some kind of error some reason why you think its not working. Correct? [12:04] i get a grub shell when i try to boot hd2,0 [12:04] and a grub error telling me its a swap partition if i try hd0 or hd1 or hd3 [12:04] Anyone compiled Audacity 1.2.3? I'm having issues. [12:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [12:05] the swap stuff tells me grubs device map is screwy (the swap partitions are on hdc, hdd, hde, hdg [12:05] process of elimination gets me to hd2 [12:06] Grey14 (~Grey@toronto-HSE-ppp4309146.sympatico.ca) joined #linuxhelp. [12:07] Grey (~Grey@toronto-HSE-ppp4309146.sympatico.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:09] kevincw01 (~824c4010@72.22.64.192) left #linuxhelp. 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[12:34] 3gpp [12:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/151 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/151 b/1 e/- I/-] [12:36] Kream, see if there's a flag when you do ./configure.. [12:36] ./configure --help [12:36] stray_: nope [12:36] thought of that [12:36] well, try --with-ldflags=-static [12:36] queuetue (~Scott@h69-21-252-54.69-21.unk.tds.net) joined #linuxhelp. [12:37] How do I give ssh (or really, scp) a password on the command line? [12:37] stray_: nope [12:37] RiotGeek (~brad@RiotGeek.active.suporter.pdpc) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:38] lisz (lisz@lolcano.info) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/150 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/150 b/1 e/- I/-] [12:41] KanFu (KanFu@p54B5C5BE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:41] Nick change: KanFu2 -> KanFu [12:42] queuetue: try using ssh key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~pkeck/ssh/ [12:42] stray_: nope [12:42] neither did LDFLAGS=static make [12:43] hoarycripple (~hoarycrip@208.27.3.38) left irc: "leaving" [12:44] Kream: dunno what you're doing. remember we can't look over your shoulder and see what's happening on your screen.. [12:44] i have only one question: why do i have to relay mail? [12:44] stray_: there's a package called iftop and i want it compiled statically so that it runs on my gateway [12:44] stray_: and I'm trying various things to get it to compile statically [12:44] it generates a dynamically linked binary each time [12:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [12:45] Kream you should be able to find tons of texts about this on the web [12:45] googling away, for the past 20 minutes actually [12:46] Kream ah, sorry to hear that [12:46] some suggest LDFLAGS=static... [12:46] ahh ! [12:46] hoarycripple (~hoarycrip@208.27.3.38) joined #linuxhelp. [12:46] make LDFLAGS="--static" worked [12:46] congratulations [12:47] zazazazaza (debian@200-126-105-9.bk7-dsl.surnet.cl) left irc: Client Quit [12:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [12:52] sekhmet (~pez@ppp-67-38-163-144.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net) left #linuxhelp. [12:54] doolin (~doolspin@cpe-24-209-80-54.woh.res.rr.com) joined #linuxhelp. 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[13:05] anyone knows about irc coding, send me private message pls.......... [13:06] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:06] usn (~usn@p54B5A6E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:07] anyone knows about irc coding, send me private message pls.......... [13:07] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:07] shut up [13:09] fuck Kasica [13:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [13:10] maybe try --to-destination instead of --to [13:10] stop, the two of you [13:10] stray_ ok. [13:11] ki4jyf (test@adsl-214-124-94.gnv.bellsouth.net) joined #linuxhelp. [13:13] stray_ : got : iptables v1.2.8: Bad IP address `mstachu.linuxpl.com' [13:13] hazleri (~hazleri@c-67-169-105-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [13:13] hello [13:14] Jolly-Roger (~cilekes@85.98.80.114) left #linuxhelp. [13:14] anyone happen to know how to fix an irq conflict on awardbios 6.00PG? [13:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/149 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/149 b/1 e/- I/-] [13:15] rainkid (~rainkid@gemini.os5.com) left irc: "rainkid has no reason" [13:15] Kasica. not sure about the :8080, but try the 66.79.189.210 (keep trying different stuff..) [13:15] stray_ but i want port redirect on domain only [13:15] mayby i will use .htaccess. will help [13:16] Kream (~karim@61.16.182.4) left irc: "Leaving" [13:17] hazleri, umm, pci card interrupts are supposed to be dealt with by the bios - i thought.. [13:18] yeah [13:18] i've got my video card, network card and usb 2.0 on the same irq and its making my system crash a lot [13:19] I am having trouble writing a floppy using dd - it says read only file system. Can anyone tell me what to check for? also - for some reason mount is not working either... [13:19] does anyone have any idea why mail to *@lists.dedikerad.se don't arrive? http://www.webbsnack.se/dns.txt (do i need a mx record?) 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[13:27] I have a usb hard drive that works perfectly under windows for copying files, but in Gentoo, it will copy like 100mb of a file, pause for about 2 minutes, then copy another 100mb, pause for 2 minutes... and on and on... i can't figure it out [13:27] Kasica (~Kasica@aas87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: [13:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [13:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/148 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/148 b/1 e/- I/-] [13:32] Dumann (~bren_duma@ipd50a76c0.speed.planet.nl) left irc: [13:32] hedpe (~hedpe@69-164-187-27.pittpa.adelphia.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [13:37] jonkri_: that mx record looks fine [13:37] Emil_Zeuthen (~emil@cpe.atm2-0-10837.0x50c766b2.bynxx14.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Qualis rex, talis grex" [13:37] amrit|afk thanks [13:37] but *@lists.dedikerad.se cannot recieve any mail [13:37] does it have to have a mx record? 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(via internet) [14:00] Dumann : rsync over ssh for example [14:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [14:01] or scp [14:01] whats the easiest for a noob like me [14:01] i got root access on both [14:01] scp file account@otherserver:/path [14:01] nebular (~Neb@Toronto-HSE-ppp3685145.sympatico.ca) joined #linuxhelp. [14:01] I'm wondering, would it be possible to use the same mailbox file in windows as well as in linux with thunderbird? [14:02] So, Sweep builds some libraries that it uses internally for audio effects, but none of these effects are showing up in Sweep, like it's refusing to load the libraries. It's probably related to me being on AMD64. Anyone have ideas? [14:03] Minusmanus (~puzzle@216-135-65.0502.adsl.tele2.no) joined #linuxhelp. [14:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [14:05] hondza (~hondza@hondza.user) left #linuxhelp. [14:06] ananke [14:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/145 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/145 b/1 e/- I/-] [14:11] ndee|AFK (~noel@80-219-53-182.dclient.hispeed.ch) joined #linuxhelp. [14:11] scp is stuipd [14:11] stupid [14:12] ndee|AFK: why? [14:12] (I am in the directory /www/home/) scp -r * root@82.195.231.178:/www/directory copies everything also from /www to the /www/directory destination [14:12] why? [14:12] scp is easy for copies. rsync -ave ssh is handy for updates [14:13] I tried scp -r foldername root@82.195.231.178:/www/nada and it copied everything above "foldername" to /www/nada [14:13] I thought that was how it was supposed to work [14:13] perhaps I'm misunderstanding [14:14] Those darn man pages are hiding too many secrets [14:14] Igg-man: it copies /www/foldername/* PLUS /www/* [14:14] and that shouldn't be, btw, I read the man pages [14:14] oh [14:14] strange [14:14] Erpo (~Erpo@ip68-225-1-93.hu.sd.cox.net) joined #linuxhelp. [14:14] do you have a symlink somewhere that it might be grabbing /www from? [14:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [14:15] have you tried using tar? [14:15] todu (tommy@c-105170d5.023-2012-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [14:15] I've never had scp behave differently than documented. Occasionally my mistake is not immediately obvious [14:15] _blue (~blue@adsl-68-94-19-246.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:16] ndee|AFK: I don't think it does that for me, but I can check [14:16] hhmmmmm, lemme check something too [14:16] instead of using '*', perhaps you could use '.' [14:16] I wonder if it is grabbing '..' as one of the files [14:17] Hi all. I'm having a problem running a 3d app. The nvidia drivers are installed and glxgears works perfectly at about 9000fps. However, glxinfo|grep direct reports "Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." and then "direct rendering: No" Any ideas? 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[14:33] if I want to see a list of subdirectories in a directory and not the files what command do I use? [14:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/145 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/145 b/1 e/- I/-] [14:35] can I change the static ip without rebooting? [14:38] Rom|000freenode (~Romster@06598f735dcd442b.session.tor) joined #linuxhelp. [14:38] templar (~sokol_mar@abr48.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined #linuxhelp. [14:38] templar (~sokol_mar@abr48.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left #linuxhelp. [14:39] newdebusr: sure you can [14:39] i changed my address in etc/network/interfaces .... then what [14:39] newdebusr: your nick suggest debian, so edit /etc/network/interfaces and then run "/etc/init.d/networking restart" [14:39] oh thanks [14:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [14:43] Romster (~Romster@31261891786fbd84.session.tor) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:43] Nick change: Rom|000freenode -> Romster [14:44] what about my question? [14:44] fisso (~none@82.192.171.34) joined #linuxhelp. [14:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [14:45] are there any CLI tool that can generate a systembeep (on the pc speaker) ? [14:46] fohzed: remember this is a voluntary help place, some will be able to help, when they can, if I ask a question and get no answer it's because nobody knows or because everybody is busy, anyway use "find . -type d" [14:49] reagent (~mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch) joined #linuxhelp. [14:49] fisso : echo -e "\a" [14:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/147 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/147 b/1 e/- I/-] [14:50] thanks, what I really want is an ls -l type output but only for the subdirectories not the files [14:51] hi. I'm setting up source based routing with linux. Something is wrong: When the default route is set to the docsis gateway, I can ping the box from outside on both IPs. If the default route is set to the dsl gateway I can only ping the dsl IP. [14:51] d1223m (~dunk@d1223m.user) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] the two IPs are on the same physical interface using vlan [14:51] ananke: it seems to work, but not in the way i want it. I log into the linux machine thru vnc or ssh, and when i do that, i get the "beep" on the local pc, i want the pcspeaker to give a "beep" [14:52] some outputs: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LK99Ay18.html [14:52] when the default route is set to dsl, I can see incoming icmp packages in tcpdump on the docsis interface, but no replies... any hints? [14:54] reagent: i might be way off, but it doesnt sound right that the two 2ip's are on same interface, they shouldnt even be on same subnet ? [14:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/146 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/146 b/1 e/- I/-] [14:55] fisso: they are on the same physical interface (NIC), but I have one vlan interface for each IP [14:55] reagent: what are your rules? [14:55] Mxyzpltk: one second, I'll paste it to pastebin [14:56] reagent: try in a network specific group if you dont get any clues here [14:56] fisso: I'm coming from #networking and they told me I may have more success here :) [14:57] Mxyzpltk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gKmji148.html [14:57] reagent: and what are your objectives... [14:57] ananke: any ideas how to force a pcspeaker beep, rather than the local beeps on the terminal ? [14:57] Dumann (~bren_duma@ipd50a76c0.speed.planet.nl) left irc: [14:58] fohzed (faz@c-67-186-114-156.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:58] Mxyzpltk: well several class C networks of the docsis ISP have been listed in the SORBS blacklist by mistake [14:59] Mxyzpltk: that's suboptimal because this is a mailserver [14:59] but what do you want to accomplish? [15:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/144 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/144 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:00] Writing user file... [15:00] Writing channel file... [15:00] Mxyzpltk: so I want to move the default route from the docsis ISP to the DSL ISP so that outgoing traffic will go over the DSL ISP [15:00] your rules only tell for traffic from one IP to use dsl [15:00] Mxyzpltk: and not from the other one to use docsis? [15:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [15:01] everyone else will use default from table main [15:02] also dsl and other provider must know how to route those IPs, the ip in your rule doesn't belong to the dsl subnet [15:02] oh [15:02] that may be the point [15:03] hm, 217.8.211.230 does not belong to 217.8.211.224/29? [15:03] now I'm completely puzzeled [15:03] if your ISPs doesn't know about this change it'll never work [15:03] ndee|AFK (~noel@80-219-53-182.dclient.hispeed.ch) left irc: Client Quit [15:03] maybe I read wrong [15:04] yes, I did read wrong [15:04] sorryu [15:04] I'll try to explain it one more time [15:04] no problem [15:04] I have one ruleset to route traffic from the dsl IP to the dsl ISP [15:04] you just got a second isp and want to put your mail in that one? [15:04] I have another ruleset to route traffic from the docsis IP to the docsis (cc) ISP [15:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:05] and I have a default route to route everything which is no a reply but a session initiated by the server itself over the docsis ISP [15:05] that would be outgoing mails for example [15:05] you should take the "gateway" from vlan4 so there is no default on main table, that'll secure you from other sources from lan [15:05] now that the docsis IP is listed in a blacklist, I want to move that default route from the docsis ISP to the dsl ISP [15:06] if I remove the main default route I won't be able to connect to anywhere [15:07] reagent: your rules need netmask, "ip rule from / lookup table dsl" [15:07] and "ip rule add from / lookup table cc" [15:07] I'm missing an "add" in the first rule... sorry [15:08] Mxyzpltk: is that instead of any command I have or is it an additional one? [15:08] then just add default routes to each tabel, dsl and cc [15:08] instead [15:08] ah, so that's 2 commands for each IP? [15:08] no, not each ip, each subnet [15:08] right [15:08] apokryphos (~dw@host-84-9-34-80.bulldogdsl.com) joined #linuxhelp. [15:08] ip rule add and ip route add default via table ?? [15:09] then and "ip route flush cache" (don't forget 'cache' so you don't flush everything) will make them take effect right away [15:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/144 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/144 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:10] boerst` (~boerst@p54B06135.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:11] reagent: if you leave a default in your main table, anything that doesn't match your rules will go over that... you probably don't want that, but then agian you probably do, don't know your needs [15:11] reagent: tons of info about it in www.lartc.org [15:11] I want to go *all* traffic over the dsl interface except the connections coming over the docsis ISP [15:12] so every host has two ip's? one from each subnet? or is it nated, or similar? [15:13] Mxyzpltk: I don't care about the other hosts, they are maintained by someone else :) [15:13] sorry for not mentioning that [15:13] irvken (~sean@82-32-102-164.cable.ubr01.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [15:13] and yes, every host has 2 IPs (not NAT) [15:13] apokryphos (~dw@host-84-9-34-80.bulldogdsl.com) left #linuxhelp ("Konversation terminated!"). [15:13] reagent: ok ok, this rules are added in your mailserver and not your gateway... is that correct? [15:13] my 2 IPs are 62.2.85.190 and 217.8.211.230 [15:14] goobit (~cwatson@modemcable018.75-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined #linuxhelp. [15:14] Mxyzpltk: yep [15:14] _blue (~blue@adsl-68-94-19-246.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #linuxhelp. [15:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:15] ([0.15][root@lists:/etc/network]) > ip rule add from 62.2.85.176/28 lookup table cc [15:15] Error: argument "table" is wrong: invalid table ID [15:15] ok, that changes it a bit, and for what you want you need some iptables magic, you must use fwmark to tag sessions from whatever they came in, and then use that mark in your rule, is not trivial and don't know the exact lines out of my head, check netfilter.org for iptables magic and lartc.org for the rules needed [15:16] alunduil (~alunduil@134.129.186.183) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:17] hm ok [15:17] genixpro (~bradley@S0106000d889027fb.vf.shawcable.net) joined #linuxhelp. [15:17] Mxyzpltk: but can you explain me why it's not working? I don't feel comfortable when something which I think should work doesen't... it means that I misunderstood something [15:18] lurch_ (~lurch@38.198-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:18] reagent: also the rule for your cc table is wrong from the very beggining, the rule has .176 which is the subnet ip and should have .190, your interface ip [15:18] ah, maybe that's it [15:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:20] reagent: also add /32 to the ip in your rules, .190/32 for example, that'll make it easy to read for other ppl [15:20] ok [15:20] agney-home (~agney@200.223.215.150) joined #linuxhelp. [15:21] but the thing is, I'm not sure if the sessions your mail server starts will listen to those rules [15:21] Mxyzpltk: they are [15:21] Mxyzpltk: it's working now [15:21] oh, ok, good [15:21] it was the stupid .190 typo [15:22] reagent: sorry if I make it more complicated that what it really was... [15:23] well no problem, I thank you for pointing it out [15:23] it took me a while to understand what you wanted and once I did I understood what you meant with the rules and pinpoint the typo [15:24] back to elfen lied then... [15:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:25] yep... thank you again :) [15:26] np [15:29] reagent: if you run into strange problems with this setup research into the iptables fwmark story, if you don't then great [15:29] Mxyzpltk: ok [15:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [15:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:30] frivol (~flippo@192.246.76.100) left irc: "Reality reasserts itself sooner or later." [15:30] teckan (~teckan@82.155.120.135) joined #linuxhelp. [15:30] Mxyzpltk: Well now it's clear what happened... the packages for the docsis ISP didn't get matched by the from rule (wrong source IP), but I didn't notice it since the were routed by the main default route anyway. And now that I removed/changed that main route *bang* [15:31] helo, I am having trouble compiling some C# code in gcc... i am getting the following error and a.out binary isn't created... i hope you can help me. [15:31] /usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/3.4.3/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot open output file percolation.x: Permission denied [15:31] ( i am using slack 10.1 @ kernel 2.6.12--mm2) [15:32] teckan: seems like you don't have write permits in the directory you're compiling, or whereever percolation.x is to be created [15:33] hm... [15:34] lisz (lisz@lolcano.info) joined #linuxhelp. [15:34] i change that using chmod right? [15:34] yes, and/or chown [15:34] teckan: or chown... bug in general you should build stuff in a place where you already have write perms... [15:34] you probably untared as root and compiled as reg user... [15:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/144 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/144 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:35] always untar, configure and compile as reg user, and if you must, install as root [15:37] Mxyzpltk, i didn't write the script [15:37] script? [15:37] i am actually beggining to work with c#... [15:38] don't u call the file which is being compiled (ex: test.c) a script? [15:38] that's the source code actually [15:38] yah [15:38] sparr_ (sparr@sparr.active.supporter.pdpc) joined #linuxhelp. [15:38] the source [15:38] course, i was confusing terms [15:38] sorry ;) [15:39] goobit (~cwatson@modemcable018.75-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left #linuxhelp ("Leaving"). [15:39] any suggestions for a regex to ask interviewees? [15:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/144 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/144 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:40] teckan: is this a tarball you've downloaded from the net? maybe there's a typo in there [15:40] it is a tarball i downloaded [15:40] but now the server is down [15:41] did you untared as a normal user? [15:41] or as root? [15:41] i can send it to you if u want to see. it is really good to people interested in physics [15:41] andro- (~andro@CPE-60-224-5-6.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined #linuxhelp. [15:42] seemawn (~seemawn@p54A995C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:42] andro- (~andro@CPE-60-224-5-6.vic.bigpond.net.au) left #linuxhelp. [15:43] Lazydog (~Lazydog@acs-24-154-94-58.zoominternet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 14400 seconds [15:43] Mxyzpltk, i think i did it as root... i had installed an app just before. i think u hit the nail on the head [15:43] let's check.. ;) [15:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:45] keter (keter@ool-44c26302.dyn.optonline.net) joined #linuxhelp. [15:45] ya [15:45] you were right [15:45] i am getting a different error now [15:45] svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions [15:45] :| [15:46] that's a known problem [15:46] Nick change: amrit -> amrit|bbl [15:46] reagent, ok, i'll google foi it then ;) [15:47] teckan: IIRC the svga stuff needs special permissions [15:47] teckan: workarounds are to run it as root (bad) use the suid bit (bad) or use sudo (not that good too) [15:48] agney-home (~agney@200.223.215.150) left irc: Client Quit [15:48] teckan: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2000/08/msg01263.html [15:49] reagent, i must run it as root then? [15:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:50] teckan: if you trust the author [15:50] running such things as root is always a bad thing... [15:50] but if you need the svgalib theres no other option (AFAIK) [15:50] reagent, so what's the solution? [15:50] hm... [15:50] ok [15:51] there is not good solution as far as I know [15:51] but of course I may be wrong... svgalib is mainly used for games, and I don't have time for that, so I'm not well informed [15:51] teckan: the main problems for running something as root is that it could get malicious code anywhere or it coud brake your box really bad, fo for you to run it as root you must trust the author and understand the app, how it works and what it does [15:51] Mxyzpltk, i trust the author [15:51] he's a friend of mine [15:52] but i am getting errors through compiling that he didn't get... i will put them in pastebin and ask you to see them please ;) [15:52] your friend should have better answers than us... but I guess someone will try to help you here [15:53] i dont have a /dev/speaker ! How do i get that? [15:54] fisso: that's a char device [15:54] newdebusr (~newdebusr@nm-os-ap1.med.unc.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:54] http://pastebin.com/312904 [15:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [15:55] fisso: IIRC that one: http://www.geocities.com/stssppnn/pcsp.html [15:55] here is the errors i got [15:55] fisso: oh no, wrong URL [15:55] sorry [15:56] lol no prob [15:57] riddlebox (~james@cpe-71.8.215.89.charter-stl.com) joined #linuxhelp. [15:58] can someone help me, I have to replace an old module with a new one? [15:58] reagent (~mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:58] HAL (~mathias@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch) joined #linuxhelp. [15:58] Nick change: HAL -> reagent [15:59] riddlebox (~james@cpe-71.8.215.89.charter-stl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:59] sorry.... maybe the time has come for a script which shows you when my notebook's battery is empt [15:59] y [16:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:00] Writing user file... [16:00] Writing channel file... [16:00] kyncani (~kyncani@lns-vlq-25-ren-82-254-145-48.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:00] reagent, that would be useful [16:00] ;) [16:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [16:04] louish (~louis@66.244.192.226) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:05] teckan: indeed... is your svgalib stuff working now? [16:06] reagent, i don't know :| i am a newbie. i got in touch with linux a few days ago [16:06] and i am reading c# code for the first time too [16:06] it's a big step for a 10-year windoz user [16:06] :) [16:07] teckan: heh... but is the program running? [16:08] Punkcut (~punkcut@64-121-11-10.c3-0.sfpo-ubr2.sfrn-sfpo.ca.cable.rcn.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:08] jerware (~jerware@pcp03939859pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:08] Markrian (~markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #linuxhelp. [16:09] chad (~chad@cpc4-stme1-5-1-cust124.cdif.cable.ntl.com) joined #linuxhelp. [16:09] hey, how can i load my Serial ATA drive on gentoo? [16:09] reagent, how can i see that? [16:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:10] teckan: you run the program, if that happens what the program should do it's ok, if you get an error it's not working... [16:12] ok ;) [16:13] reagent, what's the name of the program u want me to check? [16:13] the one you compiled [16:13] chad (~chad@cpc4-stme1-5-1-cust124.cdif.cable.ntl.com) left #linuxhelp. [16:13] ah! [16:13] i though u wanted me to check the svgalib [16:13] ;) [16:13] ugarit (~chatzilla@216-15-34-7.c3-0.129-ubr3.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) joined #linuxhelp. [16:14] root@TKN:/home/teckan/Scripts/C#/percolacao# ./run.sh [16:14] [svgalib: allocated virtual console #8] [16:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:15] teckan: so it's working? What's on console #8? [16:15] dunno but i think the program is running somewhere in my computer [16:15] teckan: alt-f8 [16:15] alunduil (~alunduil@sel158.122.und.NoDak.edu) joined #linuxhelp. [16:15] or ctr-alt-f8 if you are in X right now [16:15] alt-f7 or f6 should take you back to X [16:16] root@TKN:/home/teckan/Scripts/C#/percolacao# ./run.sh [16:16] [svgalib: allocated virtual console #8] [16:16] ups [16:16] sorry [16:16] Mxyzpltk, thanks or the tip :) [16:17] "svgalib: nmap error rrr " [16:17] (i can't copy-paste from the console #8 to console #7 where i am running X... is that impossible to do?) [16:18] svgalib is not working as u can see... it returns an error related to nmap [16:18] and it is loading VESA drivers... [16:18] which i think are not fully compatible with my graphics card [16:18] teckan: that sounds like app specific, you should ask your friend, the author [16:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/140 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/140 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:20] ok =) [16:20] i'll do it [16:20] thanks for the support [16:21] Mathman (~Mathman@138.23.180.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:24] Lazydog (~Lazydog@acs-24-154-94-58.zoominternet.net) joined #linuxhelp. [16:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/140 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/140 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:25] hm... i am realizing now that i got a lot of consoles [16:25] #8 at all [16:25] isn't it? [16:25] hellz_hunter (~abra@pcp06843444pcs.bechgr01.in.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:26] hellz_hunter (~abra@pcp06843444pcs.bechgr01.in.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [16:28] teckan: you can configure more [16:28] teckan: you have 7 virtual consoles on a 'standard' distro [16:29] how do i add a user to a "group?" so he can write to console ? [16:29] teckan: and the program is running on the 8th (there is no getty listening there) so it won't disturb anything [16:29] and can i run independent applications in different consoles? [16:29] teckan: yes [16:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [16:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/140 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/140 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:30] ugarit (~chatzilla@216-15-34-7.c3-0.129-ubr3.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:30] reagent, can i run two instances of X? (i dont think there is any point on doing this... but can i do it?) [16:30] teckan: you can run your work stuff on the first and read slashdot on the second and switch back to the first when your boss joins the room [16:30] teckan: you can [16:30] reagent, that's good [16:30] clear [16:30] teckan: you need to start a second server session. by startx -- :1 or X :1 [16:30] AJC_Z0 (s69yj2ls6w@aj-z0.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) left irc: "Screw you guys, I'm going home!" [16:30] teckan: ctrl-L clears faster. Just for the case that your boss drops in [16:31] i got another doubt, now related to fluxbox and X [16:31] different workspaces in fluxbox [16:31] souldn't they be independent from each other? [16:31] teckan: independent? what do you mean? [16:32] when i am in onde workspace i still receive annoying pop-up windows from webpages that are open in different workspaces. [16:32] i thought that wouldn't happen [16:32] riddlebox (~james@cpe-71.8.215.89.charter-stl.com) joined #linuxhelp. [16:33] (excuse me for my bad english please) [16:33] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-082-083-058-120.arcor-ip.net) joined #linuxhelp. [16:33] teckan: new windows just appear on the active workspace [16:33] reagent, hm... ok [16:33] teckan: there are window managers where you can change that settings, but I don't know whether fluxbox supports it [16:33] teckan: that's not really fluxbox's fault, the app justs spawns a new window, wich will show up in your current desktop, maybe there's a way to force all children to appear in the parent's workspace, ask in #fluxbox [16:34] and then... isn't there any way to auto-maximize firefox (and other X apps) window when i open it? [16:34] pmts (~pmts@p54A3CA53.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #linuxhelp. [16:34] it's boring having to click on the maximize button every time i open it [16:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:35] teckan: that yes, in your ~/.fluxbox dir there is an "apps" file where you can give size, and/or what workspace you want the app to always show up [16:36] teckan: you can max the app, send it to the workspace you want it, and then right click in the titlebar, and use the remember submenu [16:36] Mxyzpltk, :) [16:37] teckan: all that is saved in that apps file, once you did one you can go and check the format and type for all other apps if you don't want to click and remember all of them [16:37] ya [16:37] i understand :) [16:39] narg (~narg@dsl-63-173-190-204.tcq.net) joined #linuxhelp. [16:39] well, there is another question but i think this might be too complicated for me to solve by now [16:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:40] i got a genius multimedia keyboard (model: genius kb-21e scroll keyboard) and i want to assign multimedia keys (volume up, volume down...) to the functions i want them to be [16:40] Anyone here that can help with getting digital video cameras to work with linux or that can refer me to the proper channel? [16:40] narg (~narg@dsl-63-173-190-204.tcq.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] is there any way to get some kind of code referring to each key? and then using that 'code' to configure the funcion I want it to have? [16:41] sparr_ (sparr@sparr.active.supporter.pdpc) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] narg (~narg@dsl-63-173-190-204.tcq.net) joined #linuxhelp. [16:41] teckan: that might be posible if your current layout assigns a sign for them, to see this open "xev" from a terminal in X, move the mouse to over the new window, then without movin the mouse, press your extra keys and check in the terminals output for something like: [16:42] KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x2a00002, [16:42] root 0x208, subw 0x0, time 198534545, (150,176), root:(151,199), [16:42] state 0x10, keycode 94 (keysym 0x3c, less), same_screen YES, [16:42] XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (3c) "<" [16:42] XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (3c) "<" [16:42] XFilterEvent returns: False [16:43] KeyRelease event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, [16:43] root 0x115, subw 0x0, time 18136989, (-69,228), root:(516,248), [16:43] state 0x10, keycode 176 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, [16:43] XLookupString gives 0 bytes: [16:43] after the (3c) you can see the "<" that would be the symbol for that key, once you find them you use that in fluxbox's keys file to bind them to whatever you like [16:43] the volume down key outputs that... [16:43] all the others output something similar [16:43] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-054-110.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [16:44] the NoSymbol is bad news, you need to change your X configuration for a different keyboard layout, there are some that know about those extra keys [16:44] if your keyboard is standard enough you might get lucky and find one that assigns a symbol to them [16:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/140 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/140 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:45] I really don't know what layouts are available, my keyboard here is a model M, wich has no extra keys at all... made in 1991 :) [16:45] maybe someone else here can help you there [16:45] :) [16:45] i don't need them that much [16:46] Mathman (~Mathman@138.23.180.130) joined #linuxhelp. [16:46] i would like to see them functioning [16:46] but that's not a hurry [16:46] it's not so hard... [16:47] I really don't remember, maybe it was us_inet or similar, someone will talk soon, they are called "internet" or "multimedia" keys or similar... check for those words in google.com/linux [16:47] Mxyzpltk, i don't have the right keyboard layout... [16:47] i am portuguese and i need the ponctuation... like ç and á à ... ã so i can't use an US one [16:48] narg (~narg@dsl-63-173-190-204.tcq.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [16:48] teckan: there is a way for that also... but really, I can't help in that department [16:48] StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) left #linuxhelp ("slackware...simplicity in a tgz package :)"). [16:49] Mxyzpltk, you have already helped a lot :) [16:49] if nobody helps you here, you might want to try and ask in #xorg [16:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:50] how can i disable 'password storing service' (it's not its name but it's its function) in firefox? [16:50] Mxyzpltk, thanks very much ;) don't worry about that too much [16:50] i'll deal with that later [16:50] i got a lot to solve right now, that's secundary ;) [16:51] search around in firefox's config menus, the option is around there [16:52] Minusmanus (~puzzle@216-135-65.0502.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "Sleep!" [16:52] teckan: there are a lot of good docs in www.tldp.org, for any thing you want to do, check there first [16:52] but check the date, some of them are outdated [16:52] grepper (~robert@ip216-239-88-220.vif.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:52] yes, that's true [16:52] but is always a good place to start [16:53] yep [16:53] Mxyzpltk, thanks :) [16:53] teckan: I also remember when I was starting, my friend told me, all you need to know is "man man", run that, read it and have fun [16:54] nebular (~Neb@Toronto-HSE-ppp3685145.sympatico.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:54] grepper (~robert@ip216-239-88-220.vif.net) joined #linuxhelp. [16:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/137 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/137 b/1 e/- I/-] [16:55] :) [16:55] zer0db (~bm@adsl-065-013-047-069.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined #linuxhelp. [16:58] that's what portuguese gurus do... they always tell us to rtfm [16:58] lol [16:58] even if we have already read it 1000000 times and we aren't understanding it [16:58] fisso (~none@82.192.171.34) left irc: [16:59] hehe, that's because is always good to teach a newcommer to research for themselves, and because it was probably the way they learned... if you read about what you want to do, your questions will be a lot more specific and you'll get better answers in help channels like this one [17:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/137 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/137 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:00] Writing user file... [17:00] Writing channel file... [17:00] lol [17:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [17:01] they simply don't answer.. they seem bots with the word "rtfm" repeated many times in chatrooms... [17:01] teckan: are you trying to switch your X11 keyboard layout? [17:01] y [17:02] some channels are meaner than others, but if you get a bunch of rtfm is probably because you look clueless about what you're asking, take them with a bit of salt, but take them, they usualy don't mean bad... [17:03] is there anything special with the portugguese layout? For example for a russian keyboard you'll need multilayer maps for us and ru layout [17:03] Mxyzpltk, i know they don't mean bad :) [17:03] reagent: he's would like to get portuguese plus the internet/multimedia keys [17:04] pfft, s/he's/he [17:04] he :) [17:04] Mxyzpltk: Hm, I'd use the normal portuguese layout and a daemon for the additional keys if the wm can't catch them [17:04] JPC1976 (~jerrypc@pcp05065197pcs.elkton01.md.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [17:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/138 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/138 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:05] a deamon? anyway, I really never needed those, I'm one of the model M die hard fans [17:05] teckan: but is the portuguese layout (without mm keys) working? [17:06] Mxyzpltk, eheheh ;) that ones rock. i'd use one if i got it [17:06] Mxyzpltk: there are such things around... grabbing KeyPress events and running commands [17:06] *those ones [17:06] reagent, it is working [17:06] reagent, i am searching google [17:06] if i don't find i'll back here tomorrow [17:06] don't worry about that :) [17:07] Mxyzpltk: hotkeys is one (at least the version in debian is buggy) and ther is lineakd [17:07] teckan: you can buy them still, sometimes the show up in ebay, or new at pckeyboard.com (with different name and high price) [17:07] Mxyzpltk: I thought about adopting the debian package, but since I don't really need those MM keys I didn't [17:08] reagent: knowing how much doc is there for xkb (very close to none) a third party daemon sounds like a good solution... but I know there are some layouts already in X that know some of those keys [17:09] I just can't remember the name [17:09] Mxyzpltk: true. Bus as I can see you noticed the problem with X11 keyboard layout files [17:09] no docs [17:09] well there are docs [17:09] in russian [17:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/138 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/138 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:10] reagent, russian? :||| [17:10] that's chinese to mee [17:10] i don't know even the characters... [17:10] one second, I've got the link somewhere [17:10] lol [17:10] and i am getting it too ;) [17:10] on googel [17:11] teckan: new they're about $120us last time I checked, and on ebay run prety high also, I was very luck and got a very big box full of them from a university getting read of old stuff for like $20, probable 50 or so of them, some broken, but some work just fine until know, that was like 5 years ago... they also work as a self defense weapon :) [17:11] hm it must be in my local offline folder which I used with the dial up connection when I was in russia, one second [17:11] reagent: oh, yes, I remember seeing those russian xkb docs around a few years ago... too bad I can't read them :) [17:12] http://pascal.tsu.ru/other/xkb/ [17:12] http://www.devinity.de/showthread.php?t=6805 ---> i think this is related to my 'problem' ... [17:12] the docs are great, but I had some troubles to understand them since there are a lot of technical terms [17:12] Mxyzpltk, i got a friend that has one of the first spectrum computers [17:12] war- (~war@iniquity.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:12] and he also has one of the first machintoch models with graphic environment [17:13] museum pieces ;) [17:14] Markrian (~markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:14] he bought the spectrum for 35$US ... [17:14] hehe, yes, I got some appleII and at IBMs in that deal, but none of them worked, so the appleII went for a gift to a friend how turned them into fishbowls, cool looking, and the at's went for target practice [17:14] Markrian (~markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #linuxhelp. [17:14] ss (~ss@aaoech.aao.GOV.AU) joined #linuxhelp. [17:14] teckan: the german url is about non-working shortcuts defined in the keys file [17:14] reagent, ok, sorry, i don't understand german and that was the problem [17:14] what iptables command do I need to allow rlogin? [17:14] is this correct patch -p1 < *.diff? [17:14] Mxyzpltk, i love old things related to computers and technology... [17:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/138 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/138 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:15] i got a very very old printer... [17:15] ss: over kerberos? [17:15] reagent, yup [17:15] teckan: oldest thing related I own is a '77 pong machine that still works (as old as me) and then the 8bit atari that I turn on from time to time [17:16] that makes a lot of noise, it prints with needles and it is very funny [17:16] :) [17:16] then my '91 model M wich I will never get rid of [17:17] ss: do you know which port you have to open? It could be 513 or 543, but I don't quite remember [17:17] gnubien (~e@94.244.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined #linuxhelp. [17:17] reagent, D'OH! [17:17] I was using 543 not 513 [17:18] oh [17:18] pmts (~pmts@p54A3CA53.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone" [17:18] Redb3ard (~oylerj@c-24-125-88-66.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [17:18] 543 is k(erberos)login [17:18] I just grepped /etc/services & it said Kerberized `rlogin' was on port 543 [17:19] so klogin is rlogin with encryption? [17:19] Mxyzpltk, that is a legend now... you would be crazy to get rid of it [17:19] ss, i think rlogin is remote login with encryption yes [17:19] i am addicted to my clock too. i have it for ten years now [17:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:20] and i want to die with it in my wrist [17:20] :) [17:21] what client do you use with klogin? [17:22] ss: klogin? [17:22] he, I never get to keep a watch for too long, every time I got one I got robbed, university made me walk over bad neighborhoods, it was like a bad luck charm, so I stopped using them for a few years... I know have a citizen for about 4 years, but now I drive and CCW [17:22] how may fps do you get on glxgears? [17:22] (just to compare with my results) [17:23] if klogin exists I don't have it installed. No matter rlogin works fine now. Thanks. :) [17:24] netbots: error - update check recipients 'YourNick' are invalid. [17:24] ss: rlogin is not encrypted IIRC [17:24] right now I have a gforce 5600, about 1300fps, good enough for ut and q3, but not for doom3 or ut2004, will switch tomorrow to a 6800GT over pci-e, we'll see how much better it gets [17:24] ss: Oh no [17:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:25] reagent, I spotted eklogin in /etc/services ... sounds like rlogin & klogin achieve the same end. [17:26] Mxyzpltk, ok... that's something wrong here [17:26] ss: it has an -x switch to turn on DES encryption... but I don't know exactly what it's using by default. I use ssh anyway for such tasks [17:26] teckan: ¿? [17:26] reagent, I use ssh too but it always prompts for a password - annoying. [17:26] I got 2600 fps ... in glxgears [17:26] secure ... but still annoying! :) [17:27] ss: Do you know about ssh keys? [17:27] and i got a fx5200 [17:27] that's not coerent with your results [17:27] reagent, no ... do tell [17:27] maybe cpu, mine is and old athlon xp [17:27] ss: That's a great thing, instead of authenticating with a password you do it with keys [17:27] mine is an intel p4... not new arch 64bit... so it should be the same [17:27] ss: it's far more safe and comfortable [17:27] i386... [17:27] :| [17:28] ss: since you have to remember one master password (to secure your private) key instead of one password for each box [17:28] ss: And the best thing is that the ssh-agent can remember your passphrase so that you have to enter it only one time during the whole session [17:29] reagent, how is a "session" defined? [17:29] ss: when I log into my box, it prompts me for my passphrase and after I enter it i can connect to every box without password. And it's encrypted [17:29] linlin (~linlin@64.92.172.150) joined #linuxhelp. [17:29] ss: as long as the ssh-agent program is running [17:29] reagent, oh! that sounds nice! How do I set that up? [17:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [17:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/140 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/140 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:30] ss: this is 'forever' on my workstation (since I never log out) [17:30] ss: hang on, I'm looking for docs [17:30] *is furiously reading ssh-agent man page* [17:31] ki4jyf (test@adsl-214-124-94.gnv.bellsouth.net) left irc: [17:31] if I'm doing mknod for a device manually, do I want character or block device? [17:31] hmmm [17:32] ss: http://www.puddingonline.com/~dave/publications/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO/document/html-one-page/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO.html http://www.arches.uga.edu/~pkeck/ssh/ [17:32] ss: My distribution runs ssh-agent when I start X, so all I have to do is run ssh-add and ssh-agent remembers the passphrase [17:32] terr (~terr_@dsl-cap-66-18-218-43-cgy.nucleus.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:33] ok, it doesen't remember it, but it remembers the decrypted private key. Doesen't matter for you anyway :) [17:34] Nick change: _l0st -> l0st [17:34] Mxyzpltk: btw. do you know whether ssh -A forwards the private key or only requests for that key. The first option sounds rather unsafe for me [17:34] don't knwo [17:34] ok [17:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/138 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/138 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:35] Simkin (~Simkin@mail.vtpg.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:35] Nick change: antiwmac_ -> antiwmac [17:36] Redb3ard (~oylerj@c-24-125-88-66.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:36] linlin (~linlin@64.92.172.150) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:36] reagent, can you give me an example ssh-add command? [17:36] ssh-add [17:36] :) [17:36] :) [17:36] but you have to generate keys before you can to that [17:37] and upload the public key [17:37] ah! [17:37] linlin (~linlin@64.92.172.150) joined #linuxhelp. [17:38] ss: it's described rather well in the first URL I gave you [17:38] hehe I just use putty [17:38] ss: to upload the key, there is also ssh-copy-id [17:38] oh [17:38] yup, am reading ... I'm just a little impatient. :) [17:38] riddlebox: works with putty too anyway [17:38] Tusnal (Tusnal@82.223.53.254) left irc: Connection timed out [17:39] riddlebox: you'd just need an extra tool to generate the keys (puTTYgen maybe?) [17:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:40] I see, I just start my sshd and then use putty to connect to the machine and it will ask me if the certificate is ok [17:40] riddlebox: yep, you have to tell putty about your key [17:41] don't ask me where, it's somewhere in the click-clack GUI [17:41] but it's there [17:41] and of course the public key has to be on the machine where sshd runs [17:43] ss: to upload the (protocol v2 key) just run ssh-copy-id user@server [17:43] should do all the scp, mkdir and cat id_dsa.pub >> authorized_keys stuff for you [17:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:49] usually [17:49] l0st (x@r2d2.reverse.net) left #linuxhelp. [17:49] l0st (x@r2d2.reverse.net) joined #linuxhelp. [17:49] putty will ask you if the key it will show you is ok [17:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:50] RiotGeek (~brad@astound-69-42-5-49.ca.astound.net) joined #linuxhelp. [17:50] so most likely all you will have to do is push ok or cancel [17:50] and in your case I would push ok :) [17:50] :) [17:51] putty is such a good tool [17:52] anyone here ever use ubuntu linux? [17:52] I came across it the other day and I'm installing as we speak :) [17:52] Action: reagent coughs [17:52] eh? [17:53] dont' like it reagent? [17:53] elder: well I've some ideological problems with ubuntu [17:53] elder: they took the debian packages, altered some of them and that's ubuntu. actually that's a good idea but... [17:53] elder: do you know 3ddesktop? [17:54] oooh well I love debian! so thats good [17:54] nope [17:54] what do you mean? [17:54] that's a tool to switch the workspace with 3d animations [17:54] oh [17:54] all the workspaces are arranged in a 3d carousel and stuff like that [17:54] what about it? [17:54] I packaged it for debian [17:54] caldo_de_cana (caldo_de_c@200-233-120-210.sercomtel.com.br) joined #linuxhelp. [17:54] hello [17:54] hi caldo_de_cana [17:54] ooooo [17:54] is it avaiable to download? [17:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/137 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/137 b/1 e/- I/-] [17:55] what's the most used msn messenger client for linux? [17:55] trillian I'd say caldo_de_cana [17:55] elder: so now there is version 0.2.8 in debian (0.2.9 will be uploaded soon) [17:55] gaim [17:55] caldo_de_cana: gaim.sf.net [17:55] yeh giam too [17:55] trillian for linux is far from most used [17:55] isn't trillian closed source? [17:55] LOL [17:55] Hawkwind :( [17:55] elder: unfortunately when you compile 3ddesktop with gcc-4.0 gcc segfaults [17:55] ok... gaim doesn't have webcam yet right? [17:55] oh [17:55] elder: version 0.2.8 does, 0.2.7 does not [17:56] elder: that is (at least that was) no problem for debian [17:56] and it does this on ubuntu? [17:56] elder: but ubuntu has an amd64 port and its buildd is compiling with gcc-4.0 [17:56] what exactly does Segmentation Fault mean? wrong memory segment? [17:57] jdiskywlkr (~kvirc@ip68-0-90-1.tu.ok.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:57] and since packages only enter ubuntu's 'testing' (don't know how it's called) when it's build successfully on all archs, 0.2.8 didn't enter 'testing' [17:57] program stopped but not cleanly [17:58] how come? [17:58] caldo_de_cana: usually it means that the stack has been smashed and the asm code makes the cpu jump to an invalid memory address [17:58] reagent: And how's that a problem? [17:58] because of the segfault? [17:58] sensei: well 0.2.7 had a rather serious bug [17:58] Then it shouldn't be in the deposit at all [17:58] sensei: and on packages.ubuntu.org there's my name unter the 3ddesktop package (with is buggy) [17:58] reagent: oh... nice. but what does the word segmentation mean? [17:59] riddlebox (~james@cpe-71.8.215.89.charter-stl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] caldo_de_cana: Segmentation fault means "there's an error somewhere in some part of the program", could be just as many reasons as there's flies in a cows den [17:59] sensei: what disturbs me particularly is that we have a patch in the debian BTS for quite a while now for exactly this problem [17:59] reagent: Ah, You mean they skipped testing on 0.2.8? [18:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:00] Writing user file... [18:00] Writing channel file... [18:00] sensei: they only have 0.2.8 in their unstable (however it's called) [18:00] it won't go into their 'testing' since it failed to build on amd64 [18:00] oooo [18:00] sys (~gustgr@sys.user) joined #linuxhelp. [18:00] That's a good thing, isn't it? [18:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [18:01] If that's the way they develop things, not forking it depending on platform, that'd be normal procedure [18:01] sensei: its a good thing that not-compiling software doesen't go to testing, but it's bad that noone cares [18:01] and we even have a patch for it! But the ubuntu people didn't even check our BTS! [18:01] Does gcc4 have some issue with kernel 2.6? Is possible to compile 2.6 with it? [18:02] What's their policy? Do they accept patches from John Smith? [18:02] sys: I haven't heard otherwies [18:02] otherwise* [18:02] sensei: yes, they do. at least that's what I've heared [18:02] So what happens if you submit the BTS patch? [18:03] sensei: well I won't since the 0.2.9 debian package contains the patch and that package will go into ubuntu [18:03] Then I really don't see the problem :) [18:03] so the problem will disappear [18:03] antiwmac_ (~antiwmac@cm140.gamma100.maxonline.com.sg) joined #linuxhelp. [18:04] All well then [18:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/137 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/137 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:05] antiwmac (~antiwmac@antiwmac.user) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:05] Nick change: antiwmac_ -> antiwmac [18:05] sensei: well the problem is that in this case, they have old buggy software, they wrote 'Mathias Weyland is responsable for this debian package' on their website and I'm getting bugreports for that ubuntu package [18:05] for a bug which is fixed in debian [18:05] Igg-man (~kc0itq@rrcs-67-53-20-211.west.biz.rr.com) left #linuxhelp. [18:05] I just don't have the time to maintain those ubuntu packages, and it won't make sence because I'm not using it [18:06] That's shite you'll have to put up with as a developer/maintainer :) [18:06] But I can see the trouble, sure [18:06] I sorta don't understand [18:06] It's people who doesn't keep their mirrors up to date, they generate a lot of trafic for me [18:06] I don't wanna be troublesome [18:06] You're not [18:06] I don't say ubuntu is bad or whatever, but the expiriences I've made for now is that there are a lot of packages around in ubuntu which for nobody is responsable and the separation of debian and ubuntu is not clean at all [18:07] Like "Hey there's a bug in 0.6.5 of your program" - "Well, 0.6.5 is 1½ years old..." [18:07] sys (~gustgr@sys.user) left irc: "BitchX: sanitized for your protection" [18:07] so no point fixing it? [18:07] elder: it _is_ fixed in debian [18:08] but the new version where it's fixed doesen't go to ubuntu because it doesen't compile [18:08] but in ubuntu it isn't? [18:08] oh [18:08] exactly [18:08] well that doesn't make sense :\ [18:08] it doesen't compile because ubuntu uses another version of gcc for another arch [18:08] Why do they contact you for a bug within the program? That's for the actual author [18:09] but since ubuntu is from debian why not use the same gcc arch? [18:09] and only software which successfully built for _all_ archs go into horay [18:09] elder: well no. There are gcc versions and processor architectures [18:09] You should only be responsible for that the package puts the right files in the right place and is up to date [18:09] elder: ubuntu provides amd64 packages. debian doesen't (yet) [18:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:10] I got ya :) [18:10] which suprises me, if I'm right in saying but debian has been around longer [18:10] teckan (~teckan@82.155.120.135) left irc: "Leaving" [18:10] so why is it behind newer distros? [18:10] and ubunu has gcc 4.x since it kicks ass with 3.x [18:10] regeya_ (~shane@dialup-4.254.115.65.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) joined #linuxhelp. [18:10] what do ya mean sensi? [18:11] sensei* [18:11] elder: that's an exception, usually versions in ubuntu are newer [18:11] http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.0/changes.html [18:11] oh I see [18:11] but that exception concwerns me and I have more work and troubles now because of that [18:12] and... [18:12] reagent: Anyways, just keep a standard mail saying that any bugs within the program isn't any of your concern and give them the address to the author(s) of 3ddesktop :) [18:12] oh so what you're saying sensei is that gcc4.x is better than 3.x and makes it kick even more ass [18:12] the ubuntu BTS about 3ddesktop is just eeeempty [18:12] elder: Yeah, basically [18:12] ah I got ya :) [18:13] and 4.x is only for amd64 arch? [18:13] no thats not right [18:13] is it? [18:13] sensei: that's what I'm doing. But if the ubuntu staff would act correctly there wouln'd be any need for that. And it's clearly not my job to fix ubuntu packages or report bugs [18:13] tyreth (~tyreth@203.221.209.138) joined #linuxhelp. [18:13] If i'm logged on as root, how can I boot another user off the system? [18:13] what do you do reagent? [18:14] When compiling without optimizations (-O0), the C++ frontend is much faster than in any previous versions of GCC. Independent testers have measured speed-ups up to 25% in real-world production code, compared to the 3.4 family (which was already the fastest version to date). Upgrading from older versions might show even bigger improvements. [18:14] elder: how do you mean? [18:14] tyreth: kill [18:14] u say it's not ur job, I'm jus wondering what you do [18:14] ... his bash [18:14] Mathman, what precisely do I kill? [18:14] or whatever shell the user you want to boot is running [18:14] tyreth: run 'ps auxww' and find the processes you want to kill. [18:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:15] elder: Ah, I meant it's not my job as a debian package maintainer to fix ubuntu packages and to report bugs to ubuntu. I don't even use it. And to answer the question, I'm system administrator [18:15] oh [18:15] Mathman, but what am I looking for - a process with tty1 in it? [18:15] tyreth: His shell [18:15] so you're a debian package maintainer [18:16] and a sys admin [18:16] tyreth: you're looking for the user you don't want logged in I'd imagine. [18:16] yes [18:16] cool :) [18:16] zer0db (~bm@adsl-065-013-047-069.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "[BX] Tiger Woods uses BitchX. FORE!" [18:16] yep :) [18:16] so it's you I thank for all those nicely setup packages i grab with aptitude [18:16] haha [18:16] I entered the debian NM process yesterday, so I'll hopefully be DD in a few years [18:16] Mathman, cool thanks [18:17] NM? [18:17] DD? [18:17] elder: well, lol, don't thank me, I'm only packaging some unimportant packages.. [18:17] oh ok :P [18:17] elder: new maintainer, dd is debian developer [18:17] awesome good luck [18:17] people with @debian.org addresses which are really working on debian [18:18] kinda like having a *@*.gov address [18:18] or *.mil [18:18] if I make a new release of a debian package I have to send it to a DD which will review the package (well, at least some do) and upload it. I can't upload myself [18:18] ah [18:19] I see [18:19] so why do the ubuntu people takes debians packages? [18:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:20] I mean if everyone did that things wouldn't have much divertisty [18:20] because debian encourages to do so (which is a good idea) [18:20] elder: well... ubuntu has a lot of things which differ from debian [18:20] to tell ya the truth their little motto at the top of the screen on their site got my attention [18:20] elder: :) [18:21] oh debian does it so it's more like a free research project? [18:21] so they let ppl take their packages play around with them and see what they come up with [18:21] for bettering of their own stuff? [18:21] in a good way? [18:22] the idea is that such software has to be free, so that everyone can take the packages and alter them... [18:22] yeah open source [18:22] yeh true [18:22] you like their motto on their site as well? [18:22] I don't think that a project like ubuntu is a bad thing [18:23] Linux for Human Beings yeh that thing [18:23] and where the word ubuntu comes from [18:23] pretty deep [18:23] it's a nice idea and philosophy [18:23] yeah [18:24] lots of friends told me that getting started into linux is rather easy with ubuntu [18:24] at least easyer than with debian [18:24] ah thats good cuz I'd still consider myself in the medium beginner stages even tho I've been fooling around with linux for about 3 years [18:24] that's great since we can open the world of linux for a lot of people. on the other hand it bears a lot of new problems and troubles [18:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:25] yeh I went from turbo linux to redhat to mandrake then to slackware then to SuSE then to mandrake again then to debian and now ubuntu and FreeBSD [18:25] problems like what? [18:25] ss (~ss@aaoech.aao.GOV.AU) left irc: Client Quit [18:25] Hawkwind (~SoS@Hawkwind.channel-support-Mandriva.linuxfordummies) left irc: "I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!" [18:25] elder: as far as I've heared ubuntu with a decent installer and some nice default settings, but isn't bloated like other distros [18:26] elder: when I started with linux the install process what just a pain [18:26] I like the "un-bloatedness" if u know what I mean [18:26] elder: so no one which wasn't really interested in linux suceeded with the install process [18:26] yeah [18:26] it can be a turn off when it's too difficult [18:27] as with most things [18:27] now it's different, installation is rather easy (especially with distros like suse or mandrake) and people don't have to know anything to be able to work with their linux [18:27] does MD5Sum mismatch [18:27] so they are not forced to deal with the stuff [18:27] does anyone know how to fix the above? [18:27] ah now I see what problems you mean [18:27] when using apt-get to install a package? [18:27] Hawkwind (~SoS@Hawkwind.channel-support-Mandriva.linuxfordummies) joined #linuxhelp. [18:28] it's losing it's [18:28] alure [18:28] JPC1976: find out why they mismatch [18:28] because they aren't using much skill to do whatever is it their doing [18:28] right? [18:28] elder: and now we have a lot of users which have a running (maybe buggy when I think about 3ddesktop and ubuntu) linux and want support [18:29] elder: and they write mails like '3ddesktop is crap, it doesen't work, please help me I'm a n00b' [18:29] ah [18:29] I don't say that everyone is like this... I've met a lot of people which are really trying to read docs and elaborate all that stuff and all [18:29] reagent: what two MD5 sums does apt-get compare? [18:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [18:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/133 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/133 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:30] JPC1976: the one on the server with the one of the package I guess, but I don't know [18:30] ok [18:30] JPC1976: debian people made an md5 sum of the package you downloaded [18:30] JPC1976: apt-get made another md5 sum of the package it downloaded [18:30] yeh [18:31] any ideas on how to view/check either of them? [18:31] but soon enough the noobs who don't read are going to outweigh the ppl who do read and try :\ [18:31] don't wanna be negative [18:31] but yeah [18:31] they are not the same. That means that something with the download went wrong, someone hacked into the server and uploaded a compromised package (just an example) a new package is on the mirror and still the old md5 sum, or something went wrong when they made the checksum [18:31] elder: yeah, that's one of the problems [18:32] elder: another one are security stuff [18:32] ahh there is a command md3sum... [18:32] md5* [18:32] elder: a lot of people install linux because they've been told it's safe, no viruses, no worms ect. [18:33] elder: but this is (at least for a huge part) because people which are using linux know what they are doing [18:34] elder: just imagine you have a box with ssh enabled and a weak password... a lot of people will do that [18:34] hehe, god and money? [18:34] Mathman: lol :) [18:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/133 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/133 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:35] and one reason why I'm using linux and open source stuff is that I can look at projects, use them for my purpose and improve them... so I take something and I give back something [18:35] I took much more than I gave tough [18:35] yeh reagent you're right [18:35] but when people install linux just because it's safe and cheap it won't be possible to work like this [18:36] nopes [18:36] which is a bummer [18:37] so it's popularity as a safe system is good & bad [18:37] I'm president of the Linux User Group of Switzerland and what we are trying to do is first to explain the philosphy behind Linux and open source and help the people to understand their systems, to show them the power of unix and to explain what they should do about security issues ect. [18:37] elder: yep [18:37] then you guys should write a book or something on it [18:38] so other people can get your side too [18:39] I dunno, everyone's a linux newbie at some point. and if the influx of new users is primarily people concerned about security, then at least they're a bit better than the average user in that they're concerned. [18:39] thats a good point Mathman [18:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/133 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/133 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:40] but like reagent said [18:40] they are conerned [18:40] we are trying to do such things. I visited a lot of linux courses in the last weeks and listened what the 'teacher' said... no one was talking about what I mentioned above... it's just a pitty :( [18:40] but they don't have the drive most did back in the day [18:40] Mathman: well that's true [18:41] Mathman: the problem is just that they install it because they want security and are not willing to do anything for it. kind of security for free [18:42] virsys (~virsys@or-65-40-226-82.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:43] and of course I'm not talking about every fellow which wants to get in touch with linux... there are a lot of people which are interested and skilled and just willing to understand the system [18:44] yeah [18:44] take the time to actually learn wats going on [18:44] whats* [18:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/132 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/132 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:45] hey reagent, when first installing ubuntu do you have to do anything to ssh to make it remotely accessible? [18:45] virsys (~virsys@or-65-40-226-82.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) joined #linuxhelp. [18:45] I'm getting a connection refused [18:45] from putty [18:46] i never installed ubuntu, so I don't quite know. maybe you have to install ssh? [18:46] iptables -F probably [18:46] Even tho it's not a good idea [18:46] sensei: that's possible too [18:46] they made quite a good job about security... root account is disabled after the install as far as I know [18:46] elder: Establish that sshd is running and on port 22, if it is it's most likely a firewall issue [18:46] reagent: "good" job ;) [18:47] When security has an impact on usability, it's "good" :P [18:47] hehe [18:47] yups :) i'm liking it so far [18:47] although I can't get to the box anymore tonight [18:47] so I'll have to wait until after work tommoz [18:47] ugh thats going to make work very long tommorow [18:48] elder: you could check with ps ax or even ps ax|grep sshd if sshd is running [18:48] yeh I was gunna do that but I got kicked out after I did locate ssh [18:48] so I saw thats it there [18:48] oh [18:48] k|rbY (SoulBOT@66-230-103-70-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net) joined #linuxhelp. [18:48] didn't get to check if it's running [18:48] :( [18:48] Sounds.. troubling [18:49] lol nah [18:49] Hi everybody I have a problem setting up my network if anybody knows about this kinda stuff please help me. [18:49] I'm jus excited when I get a new distro [18:49] k|rbY: Read the topic [18:49] k|rbY: can you provide some more details? [18:49] The Problem: My fiance is connected to a DSL and my box sits next to hers. I have a crossover cable going from my ethernet card to hers [18:49] I'm trying to share her DSL connection [18:49] elder: Getting booted when doing a simple command is troublesome, excited or not :) [18:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:50] k|rbY: And what's the problem? [18:50] lol not outta my system I mean my room [18:50] k|rbY: so you want to set up NAT? [18:50] :P [18:50] elder: aaah ok.. that's less troublesome .) [18:50] I don't know how to do it [18:50] at least computer wise :P [18:50] I tried using the slackware setup to use DHCP [18:50] monsoon (~joshua@ip68-228-56-67.tc.ph.cox.net) joined #linuxhelp. [18:50] but I still have not internet connectivity [18:50] lol yes if I got kicked off the system from doing locate ssh i'd be very impressed with the security maybe even scared [18:50] :P [18:51] Skip dhcp, it'll give you more trouble than help, I sense :) [18:51] ok then, you know how else I can do it ? [18:51] k|rbY: Is your gf running Linux ? [18:51] Set static ips [18:51] no she's on winxp [18:51] she has the connection shared [18:51] Ok, can't help you there.. What distro are you running ? [18:51] I'm usin Slackware 10.1 [18:52] Ok, use netconfig to set your netowrk up properly [18:52] ok [18:52] thanks :) [18:52] Make sure you have the same netmask, preferably 255.255.255.0 [18:52] And the same ip-range.. Usually the gateway has 192.168.0.1 and you could have 192.168.0.2 [18:52] Then set the gateway on the slackware box to 192.168.0.1 and use your isp:s DNS servers [18:53] Then rerun /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 and rc.inet2 [18:53] If everything's alright with the cable and the winxp sharing, you should be good to go [18:53] and double-check the nameserver settings and ping with IPs (not domains) and use hosts which are answering to ICMP (ping) packages [18:53] ok [18:53] Emil_Zeuthen (~emil@cpe.atm2-0-10837.0x50c766b2.bynxx14.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Qualis rex, talis grex" [18:54] how do i find the nameserver ? [18:54] harris|u (~harris@pool-141-154-14-38.bos.east.verizon.net) joined #linuxhelp. [18:54] k|rbY: check the settings on the XP box. It must be there somewhere. [18:54] k|rbY: It should be set on the xp box [18:54] I'm using ubuntu and have two sata harddrives plugged in (not on raid or anyhting) -- how can I access the other harddrive? [18:54] try nslookup and see if it says "using blaha.blaha.blaha..." something [18:54] genixpro (~bradley@S0106000d889027fb.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [18:55] harris|u: is the first disk /dev/sda? If yes, the second probably is /dev/sdb [18:56] harris|u: dmesg |less tells you about detected hardware btw [18:58] hm okay thanks [18:58] w00t (~w00t@ip24-250-14-227.ri.ri.cox.net) joined #linuxhelp. [18:58] np... is it working? [18:58] does anyone know of a way to mount an ssh connection as a sort of share? [18:58] is that possible? [18:59] I have sda1,2,5 but I don't see a sdb [18:59] w00t: yes [18:59] w00t: shfs [18:59] I mean sshfs :) [18:59] reagent, thanks, i'll go read up on it [19:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:00] Writing user file... [19:00] Writing channel file... [19:00] sshfs mweyland@baku.ethz.ch: ./mnt/ [19:00] one of the good users who read up ^_^ [19:00] mounts my home on baku into ./mnt/... you'll need fuse (kernel module) and possibly some extra permissions [19:00] elder: hehe :) [19:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [19:01] question, linux boots up and displays a picture while running through the boot phase.. any idea where or what file calls that picture? [19:01] a pic? [19:01] when? [19:01] or which distro [19:01] l0st: sounds like bootsplash [19:01] l0st: if it's using bootsplash the picture is in an initrd [19:02] hrmm.. ok.. I'll dig around and see what I can find [19:02] Bearcat (~bearcat@12-32-44-12.static.blackfoot.net) joined #linuxhelp. [19:03] l0st: You mean the pengui in the upper left corner? [19:03] l0st: check your bootmanager config (grub (menu.lst) or lilo (lilo.conf) [19:03] sensei: yes [19:03] oh, that's not bootsplash, that's just a framebuffer [19:03] sorry for misleading you [19:04] does anyone have a mIcrosoft intellimouse? I'm trying to get the scroll wheel working and I'm not sure what to set the Option "ZAxisMapping" to? [19:04] reagent: don't have a bootmanager, well not lilo or grub.. this is an embedded system [19:04] harris|u (~harris@pool-141-154-14-38.bos.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:04] Hm, good question.. Could it be in the kernel? o_O [19:04] Bearcat: try "4 5" [19:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:05] Paladin: I've tried that [19:05] Bearcat: are you using the correct protocol [19:05] caldo_de_cana (caldo_de_c@200-233-120-210.sercomtel.com.br) left irc: [19:05] Paladin: oh, wait i have my Buttons set to "5" I think there may be 7 [19:05] ahh it does use grub.. [19:05] thx ;) [19:05] reagent: I'm using the "ExplorerPS/2" setting [19:05] this is a bluetooth mouse for what that's worth [19:05] Bearcat: try ImPS/2 [19:06] l0st: Check if you have /proc/splash* [19:06] thanks :D [19:06] peace out [19:06] k|rbY: np [19:06] k|rbY (SoulBOT@66-230-103-70-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net) left irc: [19:06] mh never mind that btw [19:07] brb,..thanx~ [19:07] Bearcat (~bearcat@12-32-44-12.static.blackfoot.net) left #linuxhelp ("Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [19:07] RiotGeek (~brad@RiotGeek.active.suporter.pdpc) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] scsi, self, slabinfo, stat, swaps, sys, sysvipc [19:07] monsoon (~joshua@ip68-228-56-67.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:08] Paladin: btw. Some time ago the imps/2 supported not more than 5 buttons. But it's possible that it changed now [19:08] reagent: could be.. but that's enough to get the scroll wheel working.. [19:09] true :) [19:09] l0st: http://www.arnor.net/linuxlogo/download.html it requires a kernel patch [19:09] Only found for 2.4 and 2.5 tho [19:09] forevertheuni (~foreverth@bl5-45-217.dsl.telepac.pt) joined #linuxhelp. [19:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/131 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/131 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:10] guys I wanted to make my computer the connection between my ath0 interface and my eth0 [19:10] how can I do that? [19:10] forevertheuni: Don't understand your question [19:10] forevertheuni: do you want to bridge the devices or route between them? [19:10] y [19:10] lol [19:10] what's the diff? [19:11] ok I wanted to connect computer A to the eth0 interface [19:11] and make computer A acessible to my ath0 network [19:11] (LAN) [19:11] forevertheuni: if you bridge them it's like a switch (level 2), if you route between them it's like a router. Basically you'd bridge if the two interfaces are in the same subnet and route if they are not [19:11] thx sensei [19:12] np l0st [19:12] I think bridge will be enough [19:12] forevertheuni: you need the bridge-utils for that and bridge support in the kernel [19:12] router is usually easier to setup [19:13] so if I have a subnet 10.0.0.0 and a 192.168.0.0 if I route them they will be accessible to each other? [19:13] That's the basic idea of routing, yes :) [19:13] :) [19:14] but if you route them, broadcasted package won't get from one net to the other [19:14] l0st: Also found this http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/t/x/txn131/linux/i5100/node10.html [19:14] The link is dead tho, but I suppose you could check back at a later time [19:14] reagent: btw I set up a VPN in my freeBSD machine with openvpn dev tun is for bridge and tap for routing right? [19:14] like cups browsing packages or smb broadcasts or stuff like that [19:14] philc (~reformist@63.99.57.44) joined #linuxhelp. [19:14] so if I want my openvpn client to reach other machine in the lan I need to do the dev tap option [19:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/132 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/132 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:15] forevertheuni: if you want to bridge the vpn tunnel you'll ned a tap device, right [19:15] hmm ok [19:15] just. taaap it in [19:15] I can't find the way to do it in freeBSD :( [19:15] :/ [19:15] the openvpn howto just covers linux in that [19:16] bridging in FreeBSD? http://freebsd.active-venture.com/handbook/network-bridging.html [19:16] regeya_ (~shane@dialup-4.254.115.65.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:16] lol no..routing [19:16] If it's not in the handbook, you don't need it [19:16] hehe [19:16] google freebsd natd ipfw handbook [19:16] freebsd natd ipfw handbook: http://www.freebsddiary.org/ipfw.php [19:16] sensei: lol := [19:17] :D [19:17] i've set the vpn with tun [19:17] but it does not route the subnets [19:17] you'll need a bit of nat and ip forwarding, too [19:18] that's what natd does for you [19:18] :( [19:18] ok [19:18] i'll do it when my exams are finished [19:18] :p [19:18] Sounds like a good idea :) [19:18] FreeBSD ruined my global economy test :P [19:19] ROFL [19:19] lool [19:19] I'll write it again 18th of aug.. So by the end of this month all my computer related projects must be finished :) [19:19] sensei: well linux scuttled a grilling party today [19:19] *bash OS's* :) [19:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/131 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/131 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:20] you should never remotely change your default gateway [19:20] naaaa [19:20] lol [19:20] hehe [19:20] i'll just need to go the next room [19:20] :/ [19:20] bahhh walking [19:20] well, if the box would've been set up correctly it should've worked [19:21] we have source based routing and we have 3 default gateways. and it's working [19:21] but unfortunately I made a typo when I set up the box so the other default route (not the main one) which should get active failed [19:21] Harsh :/ [19:22] TheBonsai (~bonsai@p54935A7B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:22] haha Intel has been raided in the EU :) [19:22] :) [19:22] what? [19:23] TheBonsai (~bonsai@p54935E29.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #linuxhelp. [19:23] And new security holes in Ms Word and Windows itself, DVD audio format has been cracked, Oracle has released fixes, firefox has released 12 security fixes [19:23] Great newsday :D [19:24] agney (~bofh@agney.user) joined #linuxhelp. [19:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/132 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/132 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:25] dwolf (~none@dwolf.user) left irc: "Leaving" [19:26] forevertheuni: I suppose it's connected to AMD's law suit [19:27] lol the part I asked..was ....what happened to Intel [19:27] lol [19:27] They just raided their HQ in the UK [19:28] hmm seems the problem is the raided word :p going dictionary [19:28] An attempt to seize control of a company, as by acquiring a majority of its stock.???naa? [19:28] lol [19:28] or the other one [19:28] :p [19:28] A predatory operation mounted against a competitor, especially an attempt to lure away the personnel or membership of a competing organization. [19:28] :po [19:28] Burn your dictionary :) [19:28] lol it's in net [19:28] :p [19:29] dictionary.reference.com [19:29] Oh well, I guess the latter works [19:29] the one with firefox [19:29] the first part at least [19:29] dwolf (~none@dwolf.user) joined #linuxhelp. [19:29] k [19:29] In this case law enforcement has gone to Intel with a "search warrant" and taken documents [19:29] Dumann (~bren_duma@ipd50a76c0.speed.planet.nl) joined #linuxhelp. [19:29] .. for investigation purposes [19:29] hello [19:29] ah ok [19:29] Codename_V (~V@66-215-223-46.riv-eres.charterpipeline.net) joined #linuxhelp. [19:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [19:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:30] Hello [19:30] that was the part I asked "what?" [19:30] lol [19:30] ah ok :) [19:30] I get this message when i wanna run SCREEN [19:30] Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777. [19:30] chmod 777 /var/run/screen??? [19:30] i tried chmod a+r but didnt work [19:30] :p [19:30] oh thats easy :D [19:30] Dumann: :) [19:30] You are not the owner of /var/run/screen/S-mohaa1 [19:31] omg [19:31] Dirs needs +x if you want to cd into it [19:31] what a bullshit messages [19:31] are u root? [19:31] no [19:31] +r suffice if you want to ls it [19:31] i have access to root yes, but i got this message with a non-root [19:31] i did chown -R mohaa1 /usr/bin/screen but didnt help :s [19:32] uh that wasn't a good idea [19:32] y not [19:32] hehe [19:32] ? [19:32] Dumann: screen either has a suid or a gid bit set [19:33] First of all -R is redundant if you operate on a single file, secondly users shouldn't own system wide files [19:33] well tell me how to fix it lol [19:33] ow how to set it back then [19:33] if you change the user the program won't run with the right permissions and that will screw it [19:34] how do i change that chown on screen back [19:34] what was the owner before you changed it? [19:34] just chown it to root? [19:34] i dont know lol. this machine is just installed [19:34] i guess root [19:34] did you chmod the file? [19:34] ye :/ [19:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:35] that probably removed the su/gid bit [19:35] but look, on root i didnt get the chmod 777 error [19:35] can u tell me how to set that su/gid back lol [19:35] Dumann: I suggest to purge the package and reinstall screen [19:35] kk [19:36] chown root.root /usr/bin/screen should be enough [19:36] but check that the /var/run/screen stuff and the /usr/bin/screen binary disappear after you purged it [19:36] if there are left-overs around it won't work after re-install [19:36] ok i reinstalled screen [19:37] Dumann: what does ls -l /usr/bin/screen show? [19:37] oh so i should delete those dirs after the delete? [19:37] they should disappear [19:37] what distro is this? [19:37] debian [19:37] did you remove or purge? [19:37] i did apt-get remove [19:38] then install [19:38] apt-get remove --purge [19:38] what is purge [19:38] Seek 'n Destroy [19:38] purge doesnt do anything [19:38] Rom|000freenode (~Romster@7ea74dc300577eae.session.tor) joined #linuxhelp. [19:38] odd [19:38] screen is working now [19:38] lol [19:39] ty :D [19:39] any md5sum errors when doing your apt get:)? [19:39] nah [19:39] ever get one in the past? [19:39] JPC1976: oh wait [19:39] JPC1976: that rings a bell [19:39] Dumann: did you do apt-get install screen? [19:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:40] yes [19:40] why [19:40] JPC1976: recently my pbuilder was going to download packages with apt and since those packages didn't countain md5 sums something broke [19:40] you did????? [19:40] ye [19:40] hmmm [19:40] JPC1976: I hope he's not on etch or sid [19:40] why lol [19:40] are you pulling from http://ayo.freshrpms.net redhat/9/i386 os updates freshrpms? [19:41] whats the line correspondign to your distro in your /etc/apt/sources file? [19:41] it works now [19:41] why u need to know [19:41] my experience with linux is... if it works, dun touch it =) [19:41] b/c i want to try to find a new site to pull from since this one is not working [19:41] nuh uh [19:42] if it works, play with it until u break it then fix it [19:42] :) [19:42] just get the rpm somewhere? [19:42] since yours is working, can you peek at your /etc/apt/sources.list file? [19:42] it sucks that debian cant handle rpm files [19:42] and see what site its pulling from? [19:42] i run debian [19:42] Dumann: man alien [19:43] but dude... run apt-get upgrade [19:43] or man rpm2cpio [19:43] i did [19:43] still deosn't work [19:43] that will prolly update the site [19:43] doesnt it download anythig? [19:43] Dumann: please... rpm archives are for other distros and installing them on debian would break things. [19:43] and apt-get --fix-missing doesn't work either [19:43] maybe firewall? :P [19:43] yes, it downloads things [19:43] w00t (~w00t@ip24-250-14-227.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:43] but i still get a md5sum mismatch on screen ONLY [19:44] JPC1976: did you google for the error? I found plenty of results [19:44] that why i was curious what site your sources.list file had in it [19:44] JPC1976: hm, why don't you just use debian's official screen? [19:44] yes reagent - most are posts with no resolution [19:44] kreg (~kreg@209.161.26.78) joined #linuxhelp. [19:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:45] i got 2 surfnet sites in it [19:45] Why don't you debian guys just give him your sources? :) [19:45] sensei: he didn't tell us which debian version... [19:45] i run 3.0 lol [19:45] and 3.1 :P [19:45] but i am noob [19:46] sensei: just imagine he's on sage and I'll give him my sid sources... [19:46] so better not ask me :P [19:46] sarge* [19:46] :) [19:46] I'll be off to bed now [19:46] Laters! [19:46] deb http://debian.ethz.ch/debian/ testing main contrib non-free [19:46] cya sensei [19:47] bye sensei [19:47] thanks for the help! [19:47] any time [19:47] :) [19:47] JPC1976: That's my line. but please replace testing by whatever you are using, it may b0rk your system if you don't [19:47] yeah [19:49] cya sensei [19:49] oh, already said that :) [19:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:50] out of curiousity, is there a way to look at the code for the executable apt-get and see hwo it checks the md5sum? [19:50] hehe [19:50] JPC1976: apt-get source apt [19:50] JPC1976: will fetch the source code of apt [19:51] JPC1976: if your apt system is so broken that you can't download it: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=apt [19:52] yeah i know [19:53] but im trying to actually fix something [19:53] that would be the easy way out [19:53] i guess [19:54] you can download the screen package and dpkg -i it. that would bypass the md5 check [19:54] but keep in mind that those checks are there for a reason [19:54] forevertheuni (~foreverth@bl5-45-217.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "leaving" [19:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [19:55] d00ddevil (~WinNT@c-24-15-96-194.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [19:56] RickX (~Character@159-27.26-24.se.res.rr.com) joined #linuxhelp. [19:56] dwolf (~none@dwolf.user) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:57] dwolf (~none@dwolf.user) joined #linuxhelp. [20:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/136 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/136 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:00] Writing user file... [20:00] Writing channel file... [20:00] i'm going to bed now, cya [20:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [20:02] El_Fugitivo (~ninguno@112stb30.codetel.net.do) joined #linuxhelp. [20:02] Nick change: SiegeX -> Sombodyel [20:03] Nick change: Sombodyel -> SiegeX [20:03] hola [20:03] necesito ayuda [20:03] cya reagent [20:03] thanks for the help too :D [20:04] gnubien (~e@94.244.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [20:04] yep, thank you for the talk [20:04] no speak english [20:04] hey np tommoz [20:04] we can talk some samba ;) [20:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/136 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/136 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:05] El_Fugitivo: hablo un poco :\ [20:05] ok [20:05] necesito el codigo de activacion de winlinux [20:06] u need an activation code for winlinux [20:06] ok [20:06] yes!! [20:06] :) [20:06] uno momento por favor [20:06] ok [20:07] so i have the apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr1.src.rpm file on my box, how do i view the source? [20:07] ok [20:08] ire a ver [20:08] que ano El_Fugitivo? [20:09] 2001? [20:09] 2003 [20:09] ok [20:09] puedo ver solo codigo para 2001 [20:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/136 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/136 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:10] ohhhh [20:10] uno momento por favor [20:10] bien [20:10] ok!! [20:10] wcb_ (~wcb@yosemite.cellcom.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:14] bleh [20:14] lo siento yo no sey [20:14] no puedo ver el codigo para winlinux 2003 [20:14] :\ [20:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:15] solomente para winlinux 2001 [20:15] comcho [20:15] ta bien entonce [20:15] el manana hay una persona [20:15] quien ayudarle [20:15] manana [20:16] compriendo? [20:17] ohhh [20:17] ok entiendo [20:17] lo siento [20:17] :) [20:17] Jejeje! [20:18] voy a ir dormir ahaora [20:18] ahora* [20:18] ciao! [20:18] vengo mas tarde [20:18] gente! [20:18] gracias [20:18] y tu! [20:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:20] El_Fugitivo (~ninguno@112stb30.codetel.net.do) left #linuxhelp. [20:20] Where is gtkgl? Geomorph needs it and I don't know where to find it [20:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:29] the library or something else? [20:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [20:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:30] I'd do an: updatedb & locate gtkgl [20:33] DoppelGanger (~Angelus@ool-45765642.dyn.optonline.net) joined #linuxhelp. [20:33] DoppelGanger (~Angelus@ool-45765642.dyn.optonline.net) left #linuxhelp. [20:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/134 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/134 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:36] ^A^lc}{3m|sT (~pwn3d@209-112-216-239-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net) joined #linuxhelp. [20:37] <^A^lc}{3m|sT> Hello All. I'm trying to setup my Sound Blaster Live in Slackware 10.1 it's a fresh install. and when I do lspci it lists it as exactly what it is. Any help would be appreciated :) [20:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:44] night all [20:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:47] <_blue> are usb flash drives partitionable [20:47] <_blue> ? [20:47] <_blue> or will that ruin the flash disk [20:48] mindfork (~mindfork@d778c6a513b132a2.session.tor) joined #linuxhelp. [20:49] bmg505 (~leon@rndf-146-20-02.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:50] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [20:50] bmg505 (~leon@rndf-146-52-23.telkomadsl.co.za) joined #linuxhelp. [20:51] Agiofws (~agiofws1@dyn57.spar1.nas.panafonet.gr) joined #linuxhelp. [20:52] SEGFAULT? 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[21:04] "kernel panic cannot open /sev/sda5" cannot find block 0,0" kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda5 acpi=ht resume=/dev/sda8 splash=silent vga=788thats when i get a kernel panicbut if i use partially the same grub boot line it still ok... can anyone help me please? [21:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/136 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/136 b/1 e/- I/-] [21:05] <_blue> garrett: many people have that problem....esp when getting linux to work on laptops [21:06] <_blue> works flawlessly with the same card on my thinkpad though [21:06] <_blue> sry i cant help you [21:10] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/136 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/136 b/1 e/- I/-] [21:12] AzMoo[w] (~AzMoo@azmoo.user) joined #linuxhelp. [21:13] grepper (~robert@ip216-239-88-220.vif.net) left irc: "ZZzzz" [21:13] Nick change: amrit|bbl -> amrit [21:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/136 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/136 b/1 e/- I/-] [21:15] s IT safe in single user mode to fsck my / root filesystem ? [21:15] grepper (~robert@ip216-239-88-220.vif.net) joined #linuxhelp. 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[21:53] d00ddevil (~WinNT@c-24-15-96-194.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "-=SysReset 2.53=-" [21:53] How whould i change my ip in debian, im so used to using net.eth0 in gentoo [21:53] Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.252) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:55] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [21:55] xsnrg11 (~Scott@c-67-162-123-222.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:56] ss (~ss@aaoech.aao.GOV.AU) joined #linuxhelp. [21:56] Nick change: agney -> meliante [21:56] /etc/network/interfaces [21:58] I'm trying to display an X app on a remote X session (ie. xcalc -display w.x.y.z:0.0) & I keep getting a "can't open display" error. I've done an xhost +. What am I doing wrong? [21:58] I stopped iptables cos I thought it might be blocking it somehow, but I still get the "can't open display" error. [22:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [22:00] Writing user file... [22:00] Writing channel file... [22:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [22:02] there's nothing in /var/log/messages on the remote machine ... [22:02] daniel (daniel@daniel.user) joined #linuxhelp. [22:03] I'm having dejavu - I think this has something to do with an X configuration problem ... [22:04] jerware (~jerware@pcp03939859pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [22:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [22:11] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:11] Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.163) joined #linuxhelp. [22:11] ss (~ss@aaoech.aao.GOV.AU) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:12] jaguar11 (~jaguar@c-24-15-98-20.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [22:12] ss (~ss@aaoech.aao.GOV.AU) joined #linuxhelp. [22:12] Aha! It was an option in gdm.conf. [22:12] Thanks for your help ss. [22:12] You're welcome! :) [22:13] Nick change: V_ -> Codename_V [22:14] anyone know why this command won't work: echo "The date is \c";date [22:14] it should suppress line carriage [22:14] its not [22:14] jaguar11, it works for me [22:14] i mean "\c" should in echo [22:14] jaguar11, perhaps try echo -n "the date is"; date [22:15] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/143 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/143 b/1 e/- I/-] [22:15] jaguar11: wouldn't you just do echo -n or something? [22:15] hmm [22:15] I mean, \c would probably mean do a carrige return, not not do one [22:15] hello [22:15] banyan (~banyan@S010600000a000001.cg.shawcable.net) joined #linuxhelp. [22:16] i get : [22:16] is there a command (like chown or something) so that users can not access a certain folder on ftp ? [22:16] The date is \c [22:16] Wed Jul 13 22:16:42 CDT 2005 [22:17] Hey, wtf about yum depending on unavailable packages? urlgrabber and python-elementtree... [22:17] daniel_ (daniel@daniel.user) left irc: Client Quit [22:17] jaguar11: so...why are you still trying that then? echo -n [22:17] Dumann: chmod I spose [22:17] it's kind of an important package to not have an update on. [22:18] ^A^lc}{3m|sT (~pwn3d@209-112-216-239-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] hmm ok i got check chmod [22:18] yeah the echo -n works... [22:18] forevertheuni (~4ever@bl5-42-187.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [22:19] but what is \c then [22:19] jaguar11: a backslash followed by a c. considering that's what it prints out and all... [22:19] jaguar11, according to echo(1) man page "suppress new line" [22:19] it works on my FC4 system [22:19] i know [22:20] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [22:20] doesn't that mean it would not do a new line [22:20] jaguar11: check the echo man page. you need to enable those \c type options [22:20] this works: echo -e "The date is \c";date [22:21] gotcha [22:21] ty guys [22:21] or I guess it's probably the bash builtin that's being used. so run this: help echo [22:21] anyone know of good tutorials on shell scripting [22:22] sure, search for bash on ibm.com or whatever. and read the stuff at tldp.org. Or go to python.org. Or maybe check out ruby. [22:22] antiwmac (~antiwmac@antiwmac.user) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:23] antiwmac (~antiwmac@cm140.gamma100.maxonline.com.sg) joined #linuxhelp. [22:24] "bus master arbitration failure". why ? [22:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/141 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/141 b/1 e/- I/-] [22:25] don't look at me. what sorta hardware is this refering to? [22:25] hi Codename_V [22:25] howdy [22:29] t35t0r (~t35t0r@adsl-1-216-231.bna.bellsouth.net) joined #linuxhelp. [22:29] eth1 [22:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [22:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [22:30] Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.163) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:30] JayParadise (~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com) joined #linuxhelp. [22:32] Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.173) joined #linuxhelp. [22:32] so was ne1 kind enough to answer my query ? [22:33] nope. =) [22:33] hmm. nobody is kind. huh [22:33] juice (~juice@mo-65-173-77-156.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:35] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [22:35] Jenna: according to alan cox, your network is just too busy, and your card couldn't do what it wanted or something. [22:35] whose alan ? [22:35] "ne1"? What abomination is that? [22:36] jeez, you've never heard of alan cox? [22:36] Doesn't he hang out on AOL? [22:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox [22:37] CarlFK (~CarlK@c-24-13-52-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #linuxhelp. [22:37] yeah I've heard of that geek [22:38] Codename_V: thats a lame reason. doesnt makes sense [22:39] So where does Alan belong on this scale? http://photos1.blogger.com/img/232/1924/400/spock%20and%20hippy.jpg [22:39] t35t0r (~t35t0r@adsl-1-216-231.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:40] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [22:40] hmm, pretty close to hippie, I'd say. Not that this means anything about the guy really/ [22:41] juice (~juice@mo-69-69-247-217.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) joined #linuxhelp. [22:41] But he might just be Spock with a beard. Not a goatee, but a beard. [22:42] What does it matter either way? [22:42] aristocrat (~aristocra@dsl-Chn-static-151.41.101.203.touchtelindia.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:42] One-dimensional personality profiles are great. Are you more like Walter Mathau or the Home Alone Kid? [22:43] he seems pretty cool. [22:43] He's extremely cool. We're not worthy. [22:44] There are very few guys we know of who are as cool as he is who work for The Great Evil One. [22:44] ne1 remember the tcpdump switch for dumping on the screen [22:45] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/142 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/142 b/1 e/- I/-] [22:45] JayParadise (~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:47] Romster (~Romster@06598f735dcd442b.session.tor) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:47] Nick change: Rom|000freenode -> Romster [22:47] doesn't tcpdump just feed stuff to stdout by default? [22:48] yes, it does. [22:48] or do you mean dump the whole packet? Try -x or -X, I think. [22:48] If you want to be sure, check the man page. [22:48] just run ethereal. =) [22:48] That too. =:) [22:49] thanx [22:49] JayParadise (~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com) joined #linuxhelp. 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[22:59] were are some good txt on dualbooting windowsxp and linux [23:00] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/140 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/140 b/1 e/- I/-] [23:00] Writing user file... [23:00] Writing channel file... [23:01] bMotion: autosaving facts... [23:01] aristocrat (~aristocra@dsl-Chn-static-151.41.101.203.touchtelindia.net) joined #linuxhelp. [23:03] btw does alan cox hang around on freenode ? [23:04] meliante (~bofh@agney.user) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:04] IIeie (~blood@CPE00052d00410a-CM0012253ec666.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:05] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/139 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/139 b/1 e/- I/-] [23:06] alunduil (~alunduil@sel158.122.und.NoDak.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:06] idaho45 (~john@201.243.31.212) left irc: Connection timed out [23:07] agney (~bofh@agney.user) joined #linuxhelp. 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[23:24] hello [23:24] i want a directory to be full accessable through ssh with a certain user, but the folder must be locked/secured in ftp. I tried this with chmod, but no luck so far.. any suggestions?/ [23:25] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/135 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/135 b/1 e/- I/-] [23:25] sparr_ (sparr@sparr.active.supporter.pdpc) joined #linuxhelp. [23:26] aristocrat (~aristocra@dsl-Chn-static-151.41.101.203.touchtelindia.net) joined #linuxhelp. [23:27] Inv_arp (~junya@adsl-11-81-215.mia.bellsouth.net) joined #linuxhelp. [23:30] bMotion: running level 4 self-diagnostic [23:30] #linuxhelp (+ctrn) : [m/138 o/0 h/0 v/0 n/138 b/1 e/- I/-] [23:31] Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.169) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:31] Anjay (~Anjay@dyn-213-36-108-7.ppp.tiscali.fr) joined #linuxhelp. [23:32] jent (~jent@dsl-228-234.dynamic-dsl.frii.net) joined #linuxhelp. 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